Its Got No Teeth ...

[Raymond]

So in your world, POE's just build on top of each other into infinite. So instead of EMPHASIZING 10 rules for a particular season, officials should also be EMPHASIZING every POE that was ever published.

I'm not sure how your approach is conducive to the rules committee's desire to have certain rules emphasized for that particular season.

"Hello study group, tonight we will be reviewing 1997's POEs"

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

So in your world, POE's just build on top of each other into infinite.

While both of us have no easy way of verifying this, it's in the NFHS world, not just mine.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Since the continued validity of old Points of Emphasis will probably never show up in "published" written form, and since Forum members should trust but verify, this will be difficult to verify, so feel perfectly free to believe what one wants to believe.

Originally Posted by Raymond

"Hello study group, tonight we will be reviewing 1997's POEs"

"Hello study group, after last week's pregame fight, tonight we will be reviewing pregame unsporting activity."

"Hello study group, due to a recent trend by some of our game announcers to act like cheerleaders or play by play commentators, tonight we will be reviewing the role of game announcers."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Hello study group, after last week's pregame fight, tonight we will be reviewing pregame unsporting activity."

"Hello study group, due to a recent trend by some of our game announcers to act like cheerleaders or play by play commentators, tonight we will be reviewing the role of game announcers."

Last week's pregame fight was adjudicated properly just as the rule and case books state, why does my group need to make it a POE for this season?

Our problem with announcers has been elevated to the conference ADs and the state HS board. Since the rule book doesn't specifically address that issue, we will await guidance.

You still haven't addressed your stance that all POEs ever written need to be emphasized every season. Or are you just dense when it comes to the meaning of the phrase "Points of Emphasis"?

[Raymond]

I tell players to stay away from the center circle. I redirect them away when they do go that direction. It makes sense to me. Is it printed somewhere every year? I don't know. But I'm doing it anyway.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I tell players to stay away from the center circle. I redirect them away when they do go that direction. It makes sense to me.

Same as I do. Just shoo them away. No technical foul (if I did, that would be last basketball game that I ever officiated). No written warning. I don't even mention it to the coach, or site director, unless they ask why.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

No technical foul. No written warning.

That assumes that none of the visitor players, usually starters, are spitting on the home team's center circle logo.

That was a big problem here in Connecticut several years ago, especially in state tournament games. Led to a few fights and almost fights. Things got much better after the NFHS Point of Emphasis was published.

If this behavior were to ever return, I would definitely consider an official written warning, or maybe a small chance of a technical foul after consulting with my partner. Likely depends on whether, or not, the players pretend to clean the soles of their shoes in the spit (plausible deniability).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That assumes that none of the visitor players, usually starters, are spitting on the home team's center circle logo.

That was a big problem here in Connecticut several years ago, especially in state tournament games. Led to a few fights and almost fights. Things got much better after the NFHS Point of Emphasis was published.
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I wouldn't have waited for the NFHS to publish a POE. I would tell the idiots to knock it off and if the coaches had a problem with my handling of the situation they could have taken it up with my assignor and the state governing body.

I like that my commissioner expects us to show common sense and make good decisions.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I wouldn't have waited for the NFHS to publish a POE.

The POE and problem in Connecticut happened practically simultaneously. From what I heard through the grapevine, players pretended to clean the soles of their shoes, making it difficult to determine intent. I wonder if Connecticut was one of the states that initiated this POE?

While spitting on the center circle logo pre-POE can certainly be considered unsporting, the POE goes a step further to not even allow the players there to begin with, certainly not (with no spitting) an unsporting act before the POE, but a good example of preventive officiating.

As long as they're in front of their team bench, they can spit and clean their shoes all they want. Hell, they don't even have to clean their shoes. Disgusting, but probably not unsporting or illegal.

Taking out the spitting factor, if officials were to ask players to stay out of the center circle pre-POE, I'm not sure they would have any rule or interpretation backing. Now we do (local, state, or NFHS), and I'm sure that it has prevented some fights or some almost fights.