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You can quote yourself in this discussion all you like Billy, but the point is that you must make the information available or you are risking that everyone involved will not be aware of previous interpretations. Again, I do not work with or am an IAABO member. I work for two different states that do not necessarily follow each other and their procedures. So if the state associations are not aware of such information (and they may not be) then we are flying blind to the wills of the NF if they have something else in mind. When you contact the NF they often send you back to your state association for an interpretation. So if they wish to have that interpretation the NF puts out, then you have to make that information readily available. Us talking here does not change that fact. Again most people never will know we even had this conversation or the information you just put out. For all we know there might be some facts missing, meaning there have been different conversations, or what your group might help with is never done. Until we all are made very clear that some interpretation 5, 10, or 20 years ago was published, we might not be aware of its impact and will do what is already listed or what was instructed. And based on previous information, states had all the power in interpretations of how to handle things not clearly stated. That would be a total change regards to what we are talking about here.
Again, stand by my position as to how it works. Also, the law is published and there are places to find out where a ruling has been taking place. Often interpretations are not very well known or somewhat of a secret. That is the issue here for me, not what the intentions might be. Peace
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I was paraphrasing the new NFHS rules editor for basketball.
One can solely say, "It's not in the book", and be correct in one's local area, or state, but don't count on the NFHS to back you up. The NFHS will back you up if you say, "This vanished interpretation is no longer correct because rule XXX changed", or "because X.X.X changed the vanished interpretation". But "It's not in the book" alone will no longer cut the mustard.
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Exactly!!!! Peace
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Not sure how you can speak for others and their situations. I'm trying to figure out whom exactly I would be having a conversation with in which the phrase "the vanished interpretation says...." is made. I've never had the NFHS come in and "back me up" before. What does that look like?
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Literally Not In The Book ...
Agree, but "It's not in the book" can no longer be the sole reason to ignore or disregard vanished interpretations when one is made aware of them. One needs additional references.
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It looks like a NFHS rulebook or NFHS casebook citations.
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Ignored ...
True, but it doesn't mean that the NFHS basketball rules editor hasn't ruled as we have been discussing.
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So it will be listed directly in the published books? If the answer is no, then what are we talking about here?
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10.6.1 Situation E: B1 attempts to steal the ball from stationary A1 who is holding the ball. B1 misses the ball and falls to the floor. In dribbling away, A1 contacts B1's leg, loses control of the ball and falls to the floor. Ruling: No infraction or foul has occurred and play continues. Unless B1 made an effort to trip or block A1, he/she is entitled to a position on the court even if it is momentarily lying on the floor after falling down (vanished from casebook in 2005-06). Could be conversation with another official, or possibly a coach.
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So where and when was it announced that vanished interpretations are no longer valid?
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Well, if it's an active publication, why would I need to the NFHS come in and "back me up". I just say "it's in the rule book/case book" or "the NFHS put out an interpretation for this play for the 2021-22 season".
I think delusions about what the NFHS does, especially in-season.
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Yeah, that's the way to earn a reputation as a "rules guy", relying on and passing along 3rd and 4th-hand conversations.
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The idea of a searchable digital file has been discussed, but it definitely won't be the NFHS that initially builds this database. If built, I hope that the NFHS would publish it (online), and that it not be only made available to IAABO members.
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