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Fun With Tangled Feet ...
IAABO Make The Call Video
https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...7JIOkt9bBP.mp4 Is this an Intentional Foul? Observe the action on the play and make a judgment as to whether or not this should be ruled a personal foul or an intentional foul. Two choices: This is a personal foul. This should have been ruled an Intentional Foul. My comment: This is a personal foul. Red defender accidentally made contact with the legs of the ball handler as the defender was jumping in an attempt to block the shot attempt. The contact was not excessive and was not an intentional foul. Note: Of course, “This is a personal foul” would cover both answers. Select it and you can't be wrong (with only two choices), you could bet your house on it.
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Semper Ubi Sub Ubi ...
Intentional illegal black undershirt worn by Red defender.
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Normal shooting foul.
Good job by officials closing down and staying at the scene of the crime. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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I'm Late, I'm Late For A Very Important Date (Alice In Wonderland, 1951) …
Agree. It amazes me how some calling officials are in such hurry to get to the reporting area after a train wreck, and how some partners are so nonchalant about moving toward the players on the floor, or a gathering of the fallen player's teammates, and opponents.
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Just a shooting foul.
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IAABO Survey Says …
Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.
https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...7JIOkt9bBP.mp4 IAABO Play Commentary Correct Answer: This is a personal foul. This is a challenging play. It appears the defender and the ball handler get tangled on the lay-up attempt, and this causes the shooter to go to the floor. 65% of respondents see this contact as "accidental" and rule this to be a common foul. It should be noted that contact that is considered intentional may or may not be premeditated. (4-19-3) So the fact this contact may not be deliberate does not necessarily mean the contact should be ruled to be an intentional foul. The officials should still consider other aspects of the intentional foul rule. One of those aspects is the concept of excessive contact. Excessive contact with an opponent while the ball is live or until an airborne shooter returns to the floor is considered an intentional foul. (4-19-3d) Airborne shooters are very vulnerable. Contact from behind that takes away a shooter's ability to land safely on their feet should often be ruled to be excessive and penalized with an intentional foul. In this play, the covering officials did not feel the contact was excessive and ruled this to be a common foul. Here is the breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video: This is a personal foul 66% (including me). This should have been ruled an Intentional Foul 34%.
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Words Matter ...
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4-19-2: A common foul is a personal foul which is neither flagrant nor intentional nor committed against a player trying or tapping for a field goal nor a part of a double, simultaneous or multiple foul.
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This is not an intentional foul. I'm shocked that 34% said this should be ruled intentional. To me, it isn't even close.
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Its one of those plays that looks worse than it actually is if you dont see how it actually happens. Its why I cringe a bit when I hear, "If bodies hit the floor, we have to have a foul". You need to know why they got to the floor first. Last edited by SNIPERBBB; Fri Jul 09, 2021 at 09:41pm. |
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Last Tangle In Paris ...
With an apology to Bernardo Bertolucci.
Watch the aftermath and it's actually the Red fouler who gets the worst of the tangled legs. While the White foulee gets up almost immediately, the Red foulee remains on the floor.
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