Fun With Up And Down …

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

But how does anyone know it's a dribble until the ball is touched again?

99.44% of the time it's obvious.

Otherwise, wait until it's touched. The violation is for *releasing* the ball on a dribble.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

99.44% of the time it's obvious. Otherwise, wait until it's touched. The violation is for *releasing* the ball on a dribble.

I wait until it's touched otherwise it could be the start of a legal bounce pass.

[RefLarry]

This is not a traveling violation according to IAABO

as BillyM says"Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum."


Play Commentary
White #35 appears to jump to attempt a try when the ball slips from his grasp. White #35 then returns to the floor and recovers the ball.
This is considered a fumble. By NFHS rules, this would be a legal play.
A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball unintentionally drops or slips from a player's grasp. (4-21)
A player may legally recover a fumble, which is what occurred in this play. After recovering the ball, the ball handler would establish a pivot foot outlined in the traveling rules. (4-44)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RefLarry

This is not a traveling violation according top IAABO

as BillyM says"Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum."


Play Commentary
White #35 appears to jump to attempt a try when the ball slips from his grasp. White #35 then returns to the floor and recovers the ball.
This is considered a fumble. By NFHS rules, this would be a legal play.
A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball unintentionally drops or slips from a player's grasp. (4-21)
A player may legally recover a fumble, which is what occurred in this play. After recovering the ball, the ball handler would establish a pivot foot outlined in the traveling rules. (4-44)

Is this the IAABO commentary about the play like BM normally posts or is this your spin on this play?

And I totally agree with this commentary BTW.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Is this the IAABO commentary about the play like BM normally posts ...

Yes.

Disclaimer: For IAABO eyes only. Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...%2FMYUhw%3D%3D

IAABO Play Commentary Correct Answer: This is not a traveling violation.

White #35 appears to jump to attempt a try when the ball slips from his grasp. White #35 then returns to the floor and recovers the ball.

This is considered a fumble. By NFHS rules, this would be a legal play. A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball unintentionally drops or slips from a player's grasp. (4-21)

A player may legally recover a fumble, which is what occurred in this play. After recovering the ball, the ball handler would establish a pivot foot outlined in the traveling rules. (4-44)

Here is the breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video: This is a traveling violation 71%. This is not a traveling violation 29% (including me).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RefLarry

This is not a traveling violation according top IAABO ...

What? No percentage breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video? RefLarry must have misplaced his Pickett Model N-500-ES Trig All Metal Slide Rule.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RefLarry

...

Is Cousin Larry officiating basketball now?



Note: Young'uns can look it up on the Google.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Any chance that this could be considered a try for goal? A shooter can always retrieve his own airball if the official considers it to be a shot attempt.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This is considered a fumble. By NFHS rules, this would be a legal play. A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball unintentionally drops or slips from a player's grasp. (4-21)

Interesting to note that IAABO bases its interpretation on the fumble aspect, not the try for goal aspect (which was a stretch).

[RefLarry]

I am trying!

[RefLarry]

Next time I quote you BillyMac I will include percentage breakdown.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RefLarry

Next time ... I will include percentage breakdown.

I bet that you will use of of those new fangled calculators, never quite trusted 'em.