Fun With Contact …

[BillyMac]

IAABO Make The Call Video

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Was this properly ruled a player control foul? Did the offensive player push off the defender? Did the official have a good angle to view this play? Did the ruling official use an accurate site of foul signaling?

Three choices: This is a player control foul. This is a blocking foul. This is incidental contact.

My comment: This is a player control foul. Ball handler Black #10 illegally pushed White #1 with her left arm. Official gave the team control foul signal instead of the player control foul signal. Also, Black #10 traveled before the contact.

[BillyMac]

Early results from IAABO members who have commented are all over the place. Lots of player control fouls and incidental contact, with a few blocking fouls added for flavor.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Also, White #1 traveled before the contact.

I don't see how that's possible.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't see how that's possible.

White #1 traveled five minutes previous to the situation shown on the video.

Fixed it. Thanks.

Got a call (or a no call)?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Fixed it. Thanks.

Got a call (or a no call)?

Impossible to tell from the camera angle. The official did a good job of anticipating the long throw-in and moving to be in position and was looking between the players.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The official did a good job of anticipating the long throw-in and moving to be in position and was looking between the players.

Agree. Good hustle. Through no fault of her own, if she hadn't gotten jammed between the two players and the coach and his bench she may have had a wider, more open look to see the travel. At one point she had to take a step around the coach (who was legally in his coaching box).

[BillyMac]

There's a giant M painted on the wall, and Redhawks is painted on the floor.

The black jerseys appear to say Minnehaha Redhawks.

The white jerseys say Como (Como Park Cougars).

Como Park is a public high school.

Minnehaha is a private Christian high school, but appears to compete against public high schools, and participates in the Minnesota state tournament.

Here in Connecticut private prep schools (some with post gradate programs), and Christian prep schools, only compete against each other, have their own post season tournaments, and by custom, wear dark uniforms at home, white on the road.

Connecticut Catholic high schools compete against public high schools, participate the Connecticut state tournament, and wear white at home, dark on the road, as do all public high schools.

What's the story with the Minnehaha Redhawks wearing black jerseys on their home court?

[Raymond]

This angle I don't see anything the defender does illegal.

I can clearly see the offensive player's arm unnaturally in the defender's head and neck region with contact just before the official blows her whistle.

I'll trust her angle and judgment in regards to that call.

Very first lesson I ever learned in my very first basketball camp 19 years ago was to call fouls when there is contact to the head. It has always stuck with me. The person who ran that little local high school camp is now the supervisor for about 9 or 10 Men's D1 conferences and his philosophies kind of permeate in this region of the country down to the D3 level.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

This angle I don't see anything the defender does illegal. I can clearly see the offensive player's arm in the defenders head and neck region just before the official blows her whistle. I'll trust her angle and judgment in regards to that call.

Agree.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The official in the video, showing great hustle, jammed up against the coach, straight-lined on the ball, did the best she could. She missed the travel, but in my opinion, got the foul calls, and no calls, correct.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

This angle I don't see anything the defender does illegal.

I can clearly see the offensive player's arm unnaturally in the defender's head and neck region with contact just before the official blows her whistle.

I'll trust her angle and judgment in regards to that call.

Very first lesson I ever learned in my very first basketball camp 19 years ago was to call fouls when there is contact to the head. It has always stuck with me. The person who ran that little local high school camp is now the supervisor for about 9 or 10 Men's D1 conferences and his philosophies kind of permeate in this region of the country down to the D3 level.

Agree.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Very first lesson I ever learned in my very first basketball camp 19 years ago was to call fouls when there is contact to the head. It has always stuck with me. The person who ran that little local high school camp is now the supervisor for about 9 or 10 Men's D1 conferences and his philosophies kind of permeate in this region of the country down to the D3 level.

Sounds a little like the NFHS 2012-13 Contact Above The Shoulders Point Of Emphasis. While I personally believe that the specifics (common/intentional/flagrant, moving/excessive moving) may still be valid, I can understand why others wouldn't believe such (how are inexperienced officials to know). But I strongly believe that the intent and purpose of the eight year old Point Of Emphasis is still valid: to prevent concussions by charging fouls (of some type) for any above the shoulder contact by a moving elbow.