Fun With A Reverse Hot Stove Touch ...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You don't see the ball handler reach out her right hand and touch the defender on the waist (what I commented was incidental contact)? It appears to actually happen twice in very rapid succession (maybe she didn't get burned enough by the hot stove the first time)?

Or do you believe that the second touch made it a hand check foul (as stated by the rule)?

I do not see what I would call a hot stove touch. I do not even see confirmed contact from this angle. I see a player with their arm out and when the ball handler moves she retreats her arm, which is not my understanding of the hot stove touch. Either they need a better angle or they need a better video. This was not a very good example if you ask me because you cannot see the actual thing they suggest might be an example of those kinds of actions.

I have nothing in this video to tell me definitively there is a foul. And "touching" is not a foul in itself. I never call a foul just because a player touches their opponent. I call a foul when they use their arm you keep their place or contact the ball handler on purpose. If we called fouls every time a player touches someone, we would have a foul on every possession.

Peace