And One Technical Foul ...

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

To me this is like the stop sign, it leads to other shit. I stopped using it a year ago. And some things do not need a warning, they need action. Maybe I will change my mind, but I doubt it.

Peace

I worked a college game this season where my partner did the whole "Head coach warning, put it in the book" thing. The assigner was watching online and was not a fan - he basically said if you are going to stop the game to let everyone know the coach has been warned, you might as well just stick him and be done with it. This is more akin to the NBA philosophy - the first technical foul is their warning that they are going to be ejected if they continue. And I personally agree with that philosophy.

And that is notwithstanding the fact that in NCAA-M you are not supposed to put a warning in the book unless it is a coaching box warning (this coach was not out of the box). The assigner did not even mention that aspect.

I have stopped using the "official warning" in NFHS games, as well, for the most part.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've found that the written warning the NFHS put in place has stopped coaches - and I don't hesitate to go to it.

Originally Posted by Mike Goodwin

I've been having good success with the written warning this season. No HC has been assessed a technical foul for any subsequent behavior in the same game where a warning was recorded.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...it leads to other shit. I stopped using it a year ago. And some things do not need a warning, they need action

Originally Posted by SC Official

... if you are going to stop the game to let everyone know the coach has been warned, you might as well just stick him and be done with it. I have stopped using the "official warning" in NFHS games, as well, for the most part.

What works for one might not work for all, and vice versa. Just another tool that some choose to use, and others choose not to use.

In borderline situations, I've used both, sometimes (written) warning, sometimes going directly to the technical foul. Depends on a lot of factors in borderline situations; what's been said, tone, frequency, volume, gestures, box issues, my patience (or lack of), my mood (pissed off), etc.

In many situations where I would, in the past, ignore, or possibly give a vocal warning, and then "take care of business" later, the written warning is a nice substitute for ignoring, or a nice substitute for a vocal warning, before "taking care of business", but is not a substitute for something that requires an official to immediately "take care of business".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I worked a college game this season where my partner did the whole "Head coach warning, put it in the book" thing. The assigner was watching online and was not a fan - he basically said if you are going to stop the game to let everyone know the coach has been warned, you might as well just stick him and be done with it. This is more akin to the NBA philosophy - the first technical foul is their warning that they are going to be ejected if they continue. And I personally agree with that philosophy.

And that is notwithstanding the fact that in NCAA-M you are not supposed to put a warning in the book unless it is a coaching box warning (this coach was not out of the box). The assigner did not even mention that aspect.

I have stopped using the "official warning" in NFHS games, as well, for the most part.

There is only a coach's box warning on the NCAA Men's side. And this year with the Covid restrictions, it has rarely if ever been an issue. Everyone is so far back and off the court, coaches do not feel the need to come onto the court. I did improperly a few years ago use a "bench warning" in a college game but immediately after I did that, the coach got a T from my partner (code creep).

Peace

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is only a coach's box warning on the NCAA Men's side. And this year with the Covid restrictions, it has rarely if ever been an issue. Everyone is so far back and off the court, coaches do not feel the need to come onto the court. I did improperly a few years ago use a "bench warning" in a college game but immediately after I did that, the coach got a T from my partner (code creep).

Peace

I am well aware and even stated in my post you quoted that there is only a coaching box warning in NCAA-M. However I can tell you that plenty of assigners and officials do not know this, and some assigners who do know this still want “conduct warnings” documented in the book since it apparently makes their lives easier if the coach calls them after the game. The assigner of the game I referred to in my previous post was not one of them. I do know JD Collins noted within the past couple years in some communication that the rules do not allow for “official warnings” unless it is for the coach being out of the box.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I am well aware and even stated in my post you quoted that there is only a coaching box warning in NCAA-M. However I can tell you that plenty of assigners and officials do not know this, and some assigners who do know this still want “conduct warnings” documented in the book since it apparently makes their lives easier if the coach calls them after the game. The assigner of the game I referred to in my previous post was not one of them. I do know JD Collins noted within the past couple years in some communication that the rules do not allow for “official warnings” unless it is for the coach being out of the box.

I was making that statement based on the story I told about what I did incorrectly. I know what you stated, but I did something admittedly incorrect for that level. I did it to try to make a point but it did not work.

Peace