Fun With Last Second Shots …

[BillyMac]

Is this a foul at the end of the game? Observe the play and make a judgment as to whether or a not a foul should have been ruled on the play. There is less than five seconds on the game clock and the score is tied 60-60.

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Two choices: This should have been ruled a foul. This is not a foul (let's play overtime).

My comment: This should have been ruled a foul. Defender hits shooter on right elbow (shooting arm) as shooter is in the act of shooting. Always protect the shooter.

[bob jenkins]

Impossible to tell from the camera angle. It almost looks like white flops.

If the point is that "if you'd call it with 2 minutes to go you should call it with 0.2 seconds to go" I agree -- but I don't know that I'd call it even then

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Impossible to tell from the camera angle. It almost looks like white flops.

I also believed that the shooter embellished the body contact, but the body contact was subsequent the contact on the shooter's right elbow, which definitely affected the trajectory of the shot.

(Lead was straight-lined.)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I also believed that the shooter embellished the body contact, but the body contact was subsequent the contact on the shooter's right elbow, which definitely affected the trajectory of the shot.

(Lead was straitlined.)

Was the Lead in a boat or a dire situation?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Was the Lead in a boat or a dire situation?

It did look funny when I typed it. Approved by spellcheck. Fixed it. Thanks.

[Raymond]

The shooter landed cleanly on both feet and then threw himself backwards onto the ground. If the contact was significant enough to knock him down, he would have fell sideways toward the official. We don't need to qualify that he "may" have flopped.



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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

The shooter landed cleanly on both feet and then threw himself backwards onto the ground. If the contact was significant enough to knock him down, he would have fell sideways toward the official. We don't need to qualify that he "may" have flopped.

Agree 100%. Now check out the contact on his shooting elbow.

Did he "flop" enough for technical foul?

Been around basketball for over fifty years as a player, fan, coach, and official. Never observed this called. Never. Ever.

Maybe that's why some of us say, "He may have flopped"? Once we say, "He flopped", we probably (depends on how one defines "flop") have to penalize.

Wink. Nod.

[Danvrapp]

At least I didn't hear any of the members of the team in white ask for "and one!"

[JRutledge]

Not sure where the contact was from. Not sure it was from the side. Might be a flop as stated by someone else.

Peace

[BillyMac]

(With apologies to 1935 Fred Astaire)

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not sure where the contact was from. Not sure it was from the side.

I thought that there was some contact between defender's right elbow and shooter's right elbow. Looked at it again at 25% speed (available to IAABO members). I'm not so sure about the contact any more.

Early in my varsity career, after calling a "touch" foul in a tie game at the buzzer, I was advised by a respected partner, when not 100% sure in such a situation, to err on the side of no foul before the buzzer and to "let the kids decide it in overtime".