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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 10:09am
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I for one would expect there to be no announcement of "new rules"--per se; but rather an avowed emphasis on certain selected pre-existing rules to be enforced. Seeing that said "pre-existing rules" would be selected for emphasis by an ad-hoc meeting of our superiors that would decide which rules that we officials are required to emphasize in season 20-21; furthermore, the consequences of non-compliance.
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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 10:45am
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I for one would expect there to be no announcement of "new rules"
Hey? What would annual NFHS rule changes be without some reference to fashion issues?
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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 12:20pm
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New Rules Announced for 2020-2021

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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 12:29pm
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Yet another shot clock proposal shot down.
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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 01:37pm
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The game is going to hell and a handbasket. How do we move on?

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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 01:41pm
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I viewed the hyperlink JRut provided; I must say that those "rules changes" were not--and I use the word with all due respect--significant at all.
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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 01:50pm
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I viewed the hyperlink JRut provided; I must say that those "rules changes" were not--and I use the word with all due respect--significant at all.
Pretty standard for NFHS. Every few years there is something "significant," but more often than not this is the norm.
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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 02:12pm
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Game Forfeiture Process Clarified in 2020-21 High School Basketball Rules Changes
By NFHS on May 11, 2020

Beginning next year, high school basketball rules will further clarify when a contest is to be forfeited, including if a qualified individual is not present to coach.

A proposal for a national rule mandating a shot clock as well as a proposal to allow a shot clock by state adoption were not approved.

“Information was given to the Basketball Rules Committee that shared the votes in individual states on how coaches and officials voted in support of or non-support of the shot clock rule,” said Theresia Wynns, NFHS director of sports and liaison to the Basketball Rules Committee. “The conversation among the committee members explored the pros and cons of enacting the proposal as a rule for all states and likewise for state adoption. The committee will continue to explore the shot clock issue.”

Rule 5-4-1 was one of three rules updated by the committee. It now states that a game is declared a forfeit if a coach is removed from the contest for unsporting conduct and no authorized school personnel are present to assume responsibility of the team.

“Most states have bylaws to cover the instance when no adult school staff is on the bench to attend to the team. Officials are not likely to read those bylaws and consequently not know that rule,” Wynns said. “Having the basketball rules cover such a situation helps the contest officials and coaches alike if such a situation were to arise.”

Rule 10-6-1 Penalty was also amended to clarify that an official is not required to provide a warning to a coach before a technical foul is given.

“This amends an existing rule that gave the impression that a warning was a prerequisite to ruling a technical foul,” Wynns. “Using the word ‘may’ helps one to understand that a warning is only an option.”

A timer’s responsibilities were addressed in Rule 2-12-5 when a player is disqualified or injured. A warning signal is sounded to begin a 15-second interval to replace a disqualified or injured player. A second warning signal was added when the 15 seconds expires to prepare teams for the resumption of play.

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Here in Connecticut, officials have been told by our state interscholastic sports governing body that once the coach, with no assistants, is ejected, the ejected coach has fifteen minutes to be replaced by a non-student over the age of eighteen. It is not the officials responsibility to check for proof of proper certification, we don't even ask. No replacement after fifteen minutes leads a forfeit by the team without a coach, even if they are leading in the game.

Never comes up in high school varsity or junior varsity games, but does occasionally come up in high school freshman games (especially the visiting team), or middle school games.

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Old Mon May 11, 2020, 07:51pm
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Hey? What would annual NFHS rule changes be without some reference to fashion issues?
What about colors of face masks? Predominant color of jerseay and all must match?
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Old Tue May 12, 2020, 02:30am
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What about colors of face masks? Predominant color of jerseay and all must match?
This announcement may or may not reflect all that was changed. Often, the initial announcement covers just some major things.
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Old Tue May 12, 2020, 05:52am
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This announcement may or may not reflect all that was changed. Often, the initial announcement covers just some major things.
And this announcement typically covers the announced rules changes. Sometimes there are unannounced changes in both the rules book and casebook that are more significant than the announced changes. Only a line-by-line comparison of the new vs. the old ferrets those unannounced changes out.
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Old Tue May 12, 2020, 09:04am
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Only a line-by-line comparison of the new vs. the old ferrets those unannounced changes out.
And we all know who's the official Official Forum curator of these line by line changes.



Hey Freddy. Be careful, it looks like you're putting on the COVID 15.
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Old Tue May 12, 2020, 09:20am
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This announcement may or may not reflect all that was changed. Often, the initial announcement covers just some major things.
I certainly hope so. Through IAABO, and the Connecticut interscholastic sports governing body, I suggested a minor rule change for this year. I heard it through the grapevine that my suggested change made it's way all the way up the ladder to the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee as an agenda item with a favorable outlook.

We have the “Mikan Rule”, the “Alcindor Rule”, and the "Trent Tucker Rule".

I really wanted the "BillyMac Rule".
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Old Tue May 12, 2020, 12:52pm
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I certainly hope so. Through IAABO, and the Connecticut interscholastic sports governing body, I suggested a minor rule change for this year. I heard it through the grapevine that my suggested change made it's way all the way up the ladder to the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee as an agenda item with a favorable outlook.

We have the “Mikan Rule”, the “Alcindor Rule”, and the "Trent Tucker Rule".

I really wanted the "BillyMac Rule".
*Congratulations BillyMac! Impressive---you are quite a contributor!
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