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To eject or not...
Freshman boys playoff game 2nd half home team kid has a break away. V7 catches up and two hand IF in the back. 3 man and both my partners have the call and are on top of it.
Background. Last year 2 friends and fights in their game. Players came off the bench no one had numbers... Back to the playoff game. Told myself to watch the bench who wouldnt be happy with the IF. I run toward it as 10 bench players jump up and rush toward the court. I am screaming at them STAY BACK over and over. 8 kids come withing inches. 2 kids step 3-6 inches onto the court.... At this point I am 5 feet from the sideline and now they are all backing up and sitting down looking stunned. AC and HC are clueless and sitting. Eject or not....? As always love the advice and look forward to your judgements..
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No. You sufficiently prevented it in my mind.
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Though confident that what is in Camron's mind is pretty reliable, there seems to have been an NFHS interpretation or casebook situation issued a while ago that said something like, "If the bench players move toward the fight by crossing the boundary line only a couple of feet and then stop and go back, don't penalize that." Can't find it but perhaps another might be able to dig where I haven't thus far.
Anyone?
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Nevadaref ???
Searched "fight" in the Annual Interpretations Forum page and in the current NFHS casebook and came up with nothing.
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Why Not ???
I thought the same thing.
I started thinking about the purpose of freshmen basketball, learning, participation, education, skill development, etc., and then I reversed course and decided, "Why not?". Most freshmen teams try to win their games during the regular season, why not add a playoff game (league, or multiple high school city) for competitive fun and bragging rights? I was the twelfth best player on a twelve man freshmen team that was undefeated (no playoff). As far as we were concerned we were the regular season champion (no official title, no trophy, no newspaper article). Yeah, we all knew that it was "only" a freshmen team, but we were still proud of our accomplishment, even me, who only scored a handful of points that season. The middle school team that I coached was often invited to a postseason tournament in another part of the state. Why did we go? Why did the administration allow us to go (entry fee, buses)? New teams. New sites. New challenges. To see how good we actually were outside of our regular season league games. It was exciting. Got players used to "lose and go home, win and keep playing". We did win the tournament once, and for some players it was the only scholastic postseason "championship" of their athletic careers, and some remember it quite fondly to this day.
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Intelligently Applied ...
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may be intelligently applied in each play situation. Intelligence. Experience. Common sense. It's why we get paid the big bucks.
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With the trend of this thread had an interesting situation last night. Team is whistled for their second PC of the second half (run overs, easy calls). On the second one partner turns to report (He is bench/table side) and the coach flips him off. I was new trail headed down and didn't see it. Old lead new trail saw it and T'd the coach up. Had a discussion of whether this should have been deemed a flagrant act and ejection. Didn't come to a conclusion but thought it was worthy of a discussion, we just went with regular T.
If it matters the information that I got was that it wasn't a subtle bird up against the coaches body, but they also weren't jumping up and down with their hand in the air. A medium arm extension if that means anything. |
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