Assignor Pay

[bas2456]

I'm confident you can do better than assigning officials 72-24 hours beforehand. I'm blown away by that.

I have no idea what you should charge. I just know that I'm about 60% full for NEXT SEASON already. It's not right that your officials find out they have games the same week on the regular.

[Multiple Sports]

Please don't underestimate this job. It is a 24 / 7 job. You will be attached to your phone. If you are married, please have conversation with your wife. You will receive turnbacks at all hours. If you have 100 officials, you have 100 differnt reasons why guys officiate.

Questions to consider....

What is your turnback policy ??

If you have small college officials will you accept turnbacks so they can work a D3 assignment ???

Do you value availability or ability more when assigning???

These are a few questions to ponder, I will post more as we continue this thread.

[Player989random]

Originally Posted by bas2456

I'm confident you can do better than assigning officials 72-24 hours beforehand. I'm blown away by that.

I have no idea what you should charge. I just know that I'm about 60% full for NEXT SEASON already. It's not right that your officials find out they have games the same week on the regular.

I've spoken with the current assignor and the guy who quit before him. Apparently, the commissioner has to approve all assignments. This is what is holding up the entire operation. The guy who quit last year would fill out 1-2 months of the schedule, but none of the assignments would be approved ahead of time. Compounding this issue, during the week of the game, changes would be made by the commissioner.

Armed with this new info, I'm going to decline to be apart of this madness. I appreciate the advice of everyone who had something to say.

[Rich1]

Originally Posted by Player989random

I've spoken with the current assignor and the guy who quit before him. Apparently, the commissioner has to approve all assignments. This is what is holding up the entire operation. The guy who quit last year would fill out 1-2 months of the schedule, but none of the assignments would be approved ahead of time. Compounding this issue, during the week of the game, changes would be made by the commissioner.

Armed with this new info, I'm going to decline to be apart of this madness. I appreciate the advice of everyone who had something to say.

Why have an assignor if the commissioner ultimately sets the schedule? We are currently having this battle in my organization -- the 3 presidents (elect, current, and past) want to approve all games. The bulk of our members agree that we should trust the guys we are paying to do the schedule and if they are screwing it up the board can replace them. Unfortunately, some presidents/commissioners just want too much power.

[Multiple Sports]

Administrators only really care that when they call the assigner, the assigner responds promptly later that day. Besides rescheduling a game, they have buses to worry about, notifying coaches and everything else in their day.
Whether Cam Rust and Billy Mac work the game or Raymond and Nevada Ref is really irrelevant to an AD. It's high school basketball and some guys are better than others.

[Valley Man]

Commissioner for us doesnt touch assigning. THAT IS WHAT THE ASSIGNER IS FOR!

That would be the first thing I would fix if you took it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

Commissioner for us doesnt touch assigning. THAT IS WHAT THE ASSIGNER IS FOR!

That would be the first thing I would fix if you took it.

Different system here in Virginia. You must belong to an association to officiate VHSL games, and the associations each have a commissioner whose main function is that of assigning as far as the state is concerned. In addition, the constitutions of most (if not all) VA organizations state the commissioner is responsible for negotiating all contracts with schools/conferences. We elect executive boards that are responsible for day-to-day operations of the association. The commissioner/assignor is supposed to be working FOR the association and its members, but in reality they are the face of the organization and determine much of the strategic and long-term planning.

There are at least 2 associations in VA where the organization is actually owned by an individual, and I believe those commissioners are chosen by the owner if the owner himself is not filling that role.

[Player989random]

Originally Posted by Rich1

Why have an assignor if the commissioner ultimately sets the schedule? We are currently having this battle in my organization -- the 3 presidents (elect, current, and past) want to approve all games. The bulk of our members agree that we should trust the guys we are paying to do the schedule and if they are screwing it up the board can replace them. Unfortunately, some presidents/commissioners just want too much power.

This is the issue I'm starting to suspect. I'm not sure we can fix that. Not in a pretty manner anyway. We don't have "voting rights" in my group. As Raymond mentioned, we're owned by one guy, and he calls the shots.

[LRZ]

"we're owned by one guy, and he calls the shots."

Let him do the assigning in the first place (not just final approval), with turnbacks, canceled/rescheduled games, last-minute replacements, late night phone calls about problems, etc., and see how long that arrangement lasts.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Player989random

This is the issue I'm starting to suspect. I'm not sure we can fix that. Not in a pretty manner anyway. We don't have "voting rights" in my group. As Raymond mentioned, we're owned by one guy, and he calls the shots.

Unless you can fix that, you're going to face exactly the same problems as the current and previous assignors. It may not be a headache worth getting into unless you can get (in writing) an agreement that he as to make his say some number of days before the games and that you are free to release them if he has not.

And I'm not sure I'd even do it for $12,000 as you're considering.

[Player989random]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Unless you can fix that, you're going to face exactly the same problems as the current and previous assignors. It may not be a headache worth getting into unless you can get (in writing) and agreement that he as to make his say some number of days before the games and that you are free to release them if he has not.

And I'm not sure I'd even do it for $12,000 as you're considering.

That's why I've made the decision to turn down any possible offer. Unless by some miracle they cede control of the assigning to the actual assignor, it's a figurehead position.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by Rich1

Why have an assignor if the commissioner ultimately sets the schedule? We are currently having this battle in my organization -- the 3 presidents (elect, current, and past) want to approve all games. The bulk of our members agree that we should trust the guys we are paying to do the schedule and if they are screwing it up the board can replace them. Unfortunately, some presidents/commissioners just want too much power.

TOO MANY COOKS IN THE KITCHEN....People need to learn to stay in your own lane

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by bas2456

I'm confident you can do better than assigning officials 72-24 hours beforehand. I'm blown away by that.

Yeah no kidding! Just ask Rich. In Wisconsin he assigns officials 72-24 years in advance.



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[Rich]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Yeah no kidding! Just ask Rich. In Wisconsin he assigns officials 72-24 years in advance.



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I just signed a contract to officiate a game in 2023.


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[ilyazhito]

How does that make any sense? That's like 3 years away, and for all I know you could retire by then or move out of state.

If I get asked to be an observer down the road, I might be interested in doing that, but I am not interested in assigning, because I do not want to deal with complaints from coaches about the officials they get, or from officials about my assigning decisions.