Too Low as Trail and Center

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

At one of the camps I went to this summer and in my 3-person fall league games, I got feedback that I was going too low in the Trail and Center positions. This often happens when I come into the position from transition and close down, or if I have already stepped down to stay connected to a play, and I close down.

What do you do to ensure the right balance between an aggressive mindset of staying connected to plays and being in a good position (between the 28' mark and the 3-point arc as Trail; within the free-throw circle as Center)? I'm trying to control my strides so I stop at the 28' mark as Trail and at the free-throw line extended as C, but there are times that I overshoot the mark. Are there any suggestions y'all have?

Thank you!

I bet you weren't too low in the Trail, you just had someone observing who doesn't prescribe to Trails getting underneath the play. In Trail, I'll goes as far as the FTLE to maintain my angle.

I have seen people get too low in the C, but as a hard habit, I step down in the C when I have to make a decision which way to go.

[SC Official]

There is a strong push at the higher levels for officials to be sideline-oriented in the T position and get out of the old-school habit of going way out on the floor. (Why did that ever become a thing?)

There are, of course, old-timers that push back against this, but the research from the NBA has shown call accuracy is better when we go underneath the play rather than over the top.

Without film there's no way for us to give an opinion on you specifically. My guess is you likely just had an old-school clinician who hasn't kept up with the evolution of officiating.

[JRutledge]

Mechanics are for the most part guidelines to get you in the proper position to cover a respective play. Some clinicians have very strong views about certain movements and others do not care. The goal should be to figure out who you are in front of and who you want to impress and do what they like. Otherwise, there is no real right or wrong about this for the most part. Just do what they say when you are on the court, then later go back to what works. At least you can try what they say and realize it does or does not work for you.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

There is a strong push at the higher levels for officials to be sideline-oriented in the T position and get out of the old-school habit of going way out on the floor. (Why did that ever become a thing?)

Teams did not use to take as many 3s as they do now. So you were OK in that position, but now we have so many more 3 point shots, you must get underneath to see even the slightest arm contact. At least when I started officiating, most plays went to the post. Those days are over at least for right now.

Originally Posted by SC Official

There are, of course, old-timers that push back against this, but the research from the NBA has shown call accuracy is better when we go underneath the play rather than over the top.

Without film there's no way for us to give an opinion on you specifically. My guess is you likely just had an old-school clinician who hasn't kept up with the evolution of officiating.

This is why I often do not subscribe to "mechanics books" as law. I think they are often suggestions and we should adjust to the game that we are officiating and the game that is being played. I am a high school clinician and I taught everyone to go underneath the entire summer and no one said a word to me about what I said. I am certainly not a "new school" guy either, but I am not stubborn about what we should do to get plays rights.

Peace

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I bet you weren't too low in the Trail, you just had someone observing who doesn't prescribe to Trails getting underneath the play. In Trail, I'll goes as far as the FTLE to maintain my angle.

I have seen people get too low in the C, but as a hard habit, I step down in the C when I have to make a decision which way to go.

That makes sense. I like going under more than over, because over often leads to me getting straightlined. I can get contact better from going under. Some HS officials and evaluators don't like me going low, but the college observers didn't care, and neither did the people at Court Club Elite. I had more issues with being stuck at a C position as the Lead in press coverage (probably a 2-man holdover) than with going too low as Lead and Trail, and it looks that I've solved that issue now.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll look to incorporate that into my future games.

[Kansas Ref]

well I for one can say that "thanks a lot" for making the good effort to 'get under' and not settling out in the "28 foot mark wilderness" when action is going on 15 feet away from you!

[ilyazhito]

Don't know why the old school method was for Trail and Center to be stationary in 3-person mechanics. Modern college officials do position adjust to see through players, and the younger generation of NBA officials might as well. I don't care where I end up, as long as I get the best possible look at plays in my PCA (or when needed, assisting another official when there are no plays in my PCA).

[SC Official]

I try to be stationary once I'm in a good position and anticipating that I'll have a decision to make. We miss plays when our eyes are bouncing.

As the saying goes, get to where you need to be to referee the play.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by SC Official

...in a good position and anticipating that I'll have a decision to make....get to where you need to be to referee the play.

C Anticipates Pass and Gets Beneath It Prior

[ilyazhito]

Great example! The C is in perfect position to see the gap between the pass receiver and the defender. It is unconventional, and an observer might chew him out if he's one of the old-fashioned guys, but the C is there to see travels or fouls by the on-ball matchup, and is in great position to anticipate the next play as well.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

C Anticipates Pass and Gets Beneath It Prior

*I really liked the way the L hustled over to the sideline/endline corner area in order to put in the needed "officiating work", instead of hanging out in the "no-where land" and standing under the basket and not taking a definite position. I hate it when my L does not complete the rotation and just stands under the rim area

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Freddy

C Anticipates Pass and Gets Beneath It Prior

Embedding is your friend.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

We miss plays when our eyes are bouncing.

Here in my little corner of Connecticut, we instruct our new officials using the same terminology.