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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

But assigners work for the schools, not the officials ...

That's news to me.

If that's true, why is my local board paying our assignment commissioner $31,920.00 (from our hard earned dues) to assign high school and middle school games in 2019-20?

Are you saying that he's also getting paid by the schools?

I don't think so.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That's news to me.



If that's true, why is my local board paying our assignment commissioner $31,920.00 (from our hard earned dues) to assign high school and middle school games in 2019-20?



Are you saying that he's also getting paid by the schools?



I don't think so.

I work for my schools and assign conference games for 24 schools. The schools pay for assigning.

Not everything is as in your little corner of.......you know.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

I work for my schools and assign conference games for 24 schools. The schools pay for assigning. Not everything is as in your little corner of.......you know.

Of course I know, when in Rome (or SC (South Carolina?)) ...

I, like Rich, was just pointing out the differences.

Wow. Seven dots, that's a lot of dots, just like our Tweeter In Chief (with apologies to Stephen Colbert). Did the post really need seven dots? Isn't that wasting dots, you know, dots don't grow on trees ?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That's news to me.



If that's true, why is my local board paying our assignment commissioner $31,920.00 (from our hard earned dues) to assign high school and middle school games in 2019-20?



Are you saying that he's also getting paid by the schools?



I don't think so.

In Virginia the commissioners get paid by the school(s), usually a lump sum up front based on the number of games to be assign or a negotiated fee, and also get paid by the officials with an 8-10% commissioner's fee out of our game checks.

I got into a debate with our treasurer this past season because our 1099's are reflecting the full game fees, not the game fees minus 8 to 10%. I told him the 8-10% commissioner's fee needs to reflect as income for the commissioner and whoever else gets paid from those fees. Officials at no time see that 8-10% portion of our game check, so it should not reflect as our income. We get paid by the association, so that 8-10% is only touching the association's hands.

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[Player989random]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Sure, if you say so.

Again, a lot of people with straightforward tax situations see the value in having a CPA sign their 1040. Others just hate doing their taxes and are willing to pay someone to take it off their hands. If you're seeking tax advice from a CPA chances are preparing your return is over your head even if it's straightforward. There are a lot of clients that probably use EAs for "easy" returns, as well.

I'd use a CPA over H&R Block anyday. No offense to you, to each his own.

No offense taken. That mentality is how I make money.

Originally Posted by Raymond

In Virginia the commissioners get paid by the school(s), usually a lump sum up front based on the number of games to be assign or a negotiated fee, and also get paid by the officials with an 8-10% commissioner's fee out of our game checks.

I got into a debate with our treasurer this past season because our 1099's are reflecting the full game fees, not the game fees minus 8 to 10%. I told him the 8-10% commissioner's fee needs to reflect as income for the commissioner and whoever else gets paid from those fees. Officials at no time see that 8-10% portion of our game check, so it should not reflect as our income. We get paid by the association, so that 8-10% is only touching the association's hands.

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It's the same in Western VA and my basketball association as well. I heard that the local rival one pays it's officials the actual amount that is reflected in Arbiter. For soccer and baseball it's different; the amount you see on Arbiter is what you get paid.

The only other one that does it via 11% fee out of your check is the football group. I asked them about that, and next thing you know, I got kicked out.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I got into a debate with our treasurer this past season because our 1099's are reflecting the full game fees, not the game fees minus 8 to 10%. I told him the 8-10% commissioner's fee needs to reflect as income for the commissioner and whoever else gets paid from those fees. Officials at no time see that 8-10% portion of our game check, so it should not reflect as our income. We get paid by the association, so that 8-10% is only touching the association's hands.

Your treasurer was right. You get 1099'd on the gross amount and the assigning fee is an expense you should claim on your schedule C, even if you never actually see the cash.

I previously thought the same as you until I researched it.

These may not be conclusive, but may shed some light on the topic:

• https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/ta...1099/00/356157
  
• https://www.eitcoutreach.org/ridesha...-count-income/

The Commissioner's 1099 should reflect the amount received from those assigning fees.