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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 09:49pm
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It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 09:51pm
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It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”



This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.



Yawn.


I'm with you in case you don't realize it.

Who the f---, even in a top HS game, expects an illegal dribble?

Staring at the dribbler is usually a recipe for not getting anywhere near that level.


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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 09:55pm
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I'm with you in case you don't realize it.

Who the f---, even in a top HS game, expects an illegal dribble?

Staring at the dribbler is usually a recipe for not getting anywhere near that level.


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I know plenty of high school officials who would stare at the dribbler, know the dribbling rules forward and back, and would still miss that play.

Yet in a Final Four game those same officials want to lambaste the top officials in the country for erring. LOL.
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 09:56pm
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It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.
I’m 100% that I would have whistled the illegal dribble as Trail.
Why? Simply watch the defender. If he fouls, you have that call. If he doesn’t foul, you know that he didn’t touch the ball because you are watching him. That makes the violation an easy call. No judgment is needed for the violation. Discretion is only a factor as to the amount of contact that you allow/observe for a potential foul.
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 09:59pm
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I’m 100% that I would have whistled the illegal dribble as Trail.

Why? Simply watch the defender. If he fouls, you have that call. If he doesn’t foul, you know that he didn’t touch the ball because you are watching him. That makes the violation an easy call. No judgment is needed for the violation. Discretion is only a factor as to the amount of contact that you allow/observe for a potential foul.


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I know plenty of high school officials who would stare at the dribbler, know the dribbling rules forward and back, and would still miss that play.



Yet in a Final Four game those same officials want to lambaste the top officials in the country for erring. LOL.


Like you said, SC Official.


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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 10:17pm
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Thing is, it’s not a double dribble for him to tap the ball and keep the dribble going. It’s only a double dribble because he picked up the ball with two hands and then started a new dribble.
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 10:22pm
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My god, call a spade a spade. It's not like it was close whether it was a double dribble or not. Where is the uncertainty? It's not like it happened quickly. The ball hit the dribblers foot, he picks it up, and dribbles again. C has to come get that if T boots it. There's no question what happened.

Good call on the end. Anyone that wouldn't call that shouldn't be officiating, but I suppose some wouldn't.
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 10:28pm
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My god, call a spade a spade. It's not like it was close whether it was a double dribble or not. Where is the uncertainty? It's not like it happened quickly. The ball hit the dribblers foot, he picks it up, and dribbles again. C has to come get that if T boots it. There's no question what happened.

Good call on the end. Anyone that wouldn't call that shouldn't be officiating, but I suppose some wouldn't.
Understanding why a play was missed isn’t the same as saying it wasn’t missed.

That is great that you think it was such an easy play. So, why weren’t you on that game?
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 10:48pm
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No excuse for both T and C to miss that. With T whiffing, C has to come and bail him out...or would you just prefer to not offend T, and not get it right? It's not like it was split-second, hard to make out what happened. You should have dual controls out there when the play is such that 2 officials are looking there. It can't be missed. And don't worry, I actually wanted Va to win. Beautiful basketball.
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2019, 10:53pm
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Well, I worked the biggest game in my state. I can tell you that every call was thought out and if I had not clearly seen this play, I would have gotten it, but I would not necessarily know that I would see this as clearly as slow motion. So when I hear officials say, "I would have seen this," give me a break. This is the biggest game of their lives and all of a sudden these situations are always seen clearly. It is one thing when you are calling a game in the middle of the season and hardly anyone cares, but it is another when the game has all the eyes and the coverage you never have during the season.

It was a miss. It is not the end of the world. There was more to play for after that play and that play was called correct by an official coming out of his primary.

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Old Mon Apr 08, 2019, 10:19am
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It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.
Has anybody said that yet? I haven't read that.

Some missed plays/calls. Some great calls. Just like most crews out there working across the country.

D1 officials are not gods. They sometimes get treated like it. We all know some great officials. Some of you on this board are great officials. The difference between the guys on TV and the great officials you know is how much time, money at big time camps, and kissing up at big time camps do you want to spend. That's how you get to the big time. It's not because these guys are perfect and never mess up. They proved that.

They did a great job, but also missed some things. That's almost every game in the world.
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