Final Four: Virginia v Auburn

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

Put yourself on the court as the T or C and imagine officiating the defender (as we are taught) expecting a take-foul to happen.

I'm not seeing a dribble off the foot with the Auburn #2 so close to the ball handler and not guessing why the ball was loose for a split second. I'm just really surprised Breeding didn't call the take-foul.

Christ, Breeding was not the official that missed the illegal dribble or the take foul.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Christ, Breeding was not the official that missed the illegal dribble or the take foul.

The T missed the illegal dribble. The C had a great, open look at the take foul.


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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

The T missed the illegal dribble. The C had a great, open look at the take foul.

The T was Kimble. The C was Sirmons.

Breeding had nothing to do with these plays, and he had the guts to make the most important call of the game and nailed it.

How many holier-than-thou officials would have passed on that play under the justification of “letting the kids decide it”?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

The T was Kimble. The C was Sirmons.



Breeding had nothing to do with these plays, and he had the guts to make the most important call of the game and nailed it.



How many holier-than-thou officials would have passed on that play under the justification of “letting the kids decide it”?

I never used names.

A to B, bodied the shooter at the top of the shot.

If you pass on that, you're not a good official and I don't want to work with you.


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[SC Official]

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”



This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.



Yawn.

I'm with you in case you don't realize it.

Who the f---, even in a top HS game, expects an illegal dribble?

Staring at the dribbler is usually a recipe for not getting anywhere near that level.


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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm with you in case you don't realize it.

Who the f---, even in a top HS game, expects an illegal dribble?

Staring at the dribbler is usually a recipe for not getting anywhere near that level.


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I know plenty of high school officials who would stare at the dribbler, know the dribbling rules forward and back, and would still miss that play.

Yet in a Final Four game those same officials want to lambaste the top officials in the country for erring. LOL.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by SC Official

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.

I’m 100% that I would have whistled the illegal dribble as Trail.
Why? Simply watch the defender. If he fouls, you have that call. If he doesn’t foul, you know that he didn’t touch the ball because you are watching him. That makes the violation an easy call. No judgment is needed for the violation. Discretion is only a factor as to the amount of contact that you allow/observe for a potential foul.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I’m 100% that I would have whistled the illegal dribble as Trail.

Why? Simply watch the defender. If he fouls, you have that call. If he doesn’t foul, you know that he didn’t touch the ball because you are watching him. That makes the violation an easy call. No judgment is needed for the violation. Discretion is only a factor as to the amount of contact that you allow/observe for a potential foul.

Originally Posted by SC Official

I know plenty of high school officials who would stare at the dribbler, know the dribbling rules forward and back, and would still miss that play.



Yet in a Final Four game those same officials want to lambaste the top officials in the country for erring. LOL.

Like you said, SC Official.


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Thing is, it’s not a double dribble for him to tap the ball and keep the dribble going. It’s only a double dribble because he picked up the ball with two hands and then started a new dribble.

[thedewed]

My god, call a spade a spade. It's not like it was close whether it was a double dribble or not. Where is the uncertainty? It's not like it happened quickly. The ball hit the dribblers foot, he picks it up, and dribbles again. C has to come get that if T boots it. There's no question what happened.

Good call on the end. Anyone that wouldn't call that shouldn't be officiating, but I suppose some wouldn't.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by thedewed

My god, call a spade a spade. It's not like it was close whether it was a double dribble or not. Where is the uncertainty? It's not like it happened quickly. The ball hit the dribblers foot, he picks it up, and dribbles again. C has to come get that if T boots it. There's no question what happened.

Good call on the end. Anyone that wouldn't call that shouldn't be officiating, but I suppose some wouldn't.

Understanding why a play was missed isn’t the same as saying it wasn’t missed.

That is great that you think it was such an easy play. So, why weren’t you on that game?

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by SC Official

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.

Has anybody said that yet? I haven't read that.

Some missed plays/calls. Some great calls. Just like most crews out there working across the country.

D1 officials are not gods. They sometimes get treated like it. We all know some great officials. Some of you on this board are great officials. The difference between the guys on TV and the great officials you know is how much time, money at big time camps, and kissing up at big time camps do you want to spend. That's how you get to the big time. It's not because these guys are perfect and never mess up. They proved that.

They did a great job, but also missed some things. That's almost every game in the world.