Minnesota Controversial Ending

[BoomerSooner]

Originally Posted by deecee

I think you are over analyzing things. It's still a HS game and I wouldn't expect all the bells and whistles that the rules necessarily cover. The wave off was the correct call, and I didn't even think it was all that close from my first viewing.

From a practical standpoint, I agree with how the situation was handled as the ball was in the shooter's hand when the clock showed 0.0 and the light was on.

That said, yes, I am over-analyzing the situation for the sake of theoretical discussion. I'm honestly curious if others have opinions on the light placement. For example, if you were aware of the placement before the game, how would you pregame it? Is the proper placement worth mentioning to game/site management or your assignor? Other than watching the end of a prior game, I've never done a pregame horn/light check but given the slight lag between the two in this situation, I'm questioning if I should in pregame. I've never had a situation like this with a slight lag between the two (I have had situations where the horn has failed to go off entirely).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner

For example, if you were aware of the placement before the game, how would you pregame it?

Only one of our regular season sites has lights, and we always pregame that light "trumps" horn. We would do the same for a state tournament site.

[BillyMac]

2.13 SITUATION: The signal to end the fourth quarter cannot be heard by the officials. The table officials disagree as to whether the ball was in flight during a try for field goal when time expired or if a foul occurred before the ball became dead. RULING: The final decision shall be made by the referee, and unless he/she has knowledge to alter the ruling, the goal shall count if it was successful and the foul shall be charged and penalized. (2-5-5)

5.6.2 SITUATION I: During the pregame warm-up, the officials observe that the facility has functioning LED lights on each backboard. A1 begins the act of shooting just prior to
the expiration of time in the first quarter. The covering official observes the attempt in A1’s hands when the LED light is activated, but the ball appears to be out of the hands when the horn is sounded. The ball goes in the basket. RULING: No goal; the quarter expired prior to the release of the try. COMMENT: Red/LED lights provide a visual reference for officials to determine when a period has ended. The red/LED lights and the horn are expected to be synchronized, but since light travels faster than sound, it may appear that one follows the other. The red/LED lights give a more precise indication that a period has expired. (1-14; 6-7-6)

2-13-3: If table officials disagree, the goal shall count and/or the foul
shall be penalized, unless the referee has knowledge which alters such
ruling.

1-14 A red light behind each backboard or an LED light on each backboard is
permitted to signal that time has expired for a quarter or extra period. In
facilities without a red light behind or an LED light on each backboard, the
audible timer’s signal shall indicate that time has expired.

2-12-7: Indicate by signal the expiration of playing time in each quarter
or extra period. If a red/LED light is used, the light is the official
expiration of playing time.

[rbruno]

Always feel like the light is irrelavant unless you can use video replay. During live game action we have to watch the players and listen for the horn to determine if the goal was good or not.