Controversial ending

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

It must be the end of a sports season in Michigan again: Mick McCabe wrote one of his usual Post-Season Bash the Refs articles.

I think this was a combination bash the ref and bash the MHSAA article, and I don't disagree with either.

[Kelvin green]

If I’m trail, there is no way I’m going to call the travel. That’s my partners call all the way.

And now you why I hate a team that’s up ....fouling. Make them beat you....of course that’s why I don’t coach.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

If I’m trail, there is no way I’m going to call the travel. That’s my partners call all the way.

And now you why I hate a team that’s up ....fouling. Make them beat you....of course that’s why I don’t coach.

I think goes to the inconsistency of fouls called in late game situations. Had IM been down 1 instead of up one, they get the call on the first or second attempt at a foul and there is no intentional foul called. I think officials call it differently when a foul is committed by the team up trying to use the fouls they have without putting a team in the line.

[deecee]

I think both these were "rough" and the officials that made the call will be under a lot of scrutiny, and deservedly so (I don't agree with the hate and public outcry, but the internal structure - assignor/evaluators/etc - should be the one addressing this). To make that travel call from half court or beyond, with 2 other guys with decent to good looks MUCH closer is rough.

The intentional foul.....there may be a case to be made, however it's a very lose case. At least it wasn't the same official that made both calls.

I'd rather miss a blatant travel than call one that isn't there, especially from 50+ feet away at such a crucial time.

In the end, and from my experience, expect these guys back on the same type of games next year .

[rockyroad]

Referee Screws U.P School Iron Mountain Out Of State Championship – Pro Sports Extra |

Buried in this article is a different camera angle of the 2 plays. Gives a much better view of the Int. Foul call...not saying it was the correct call, but does give a better view of what the ref saw.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Referee Screws U.P School Iron Mountain Out Of State Championship – Pro Sports Extra |

Buried in this article is a different camera angle of the 2 plays. Gives a much better view of the Int. Foul call...not saying it was the correct call, but does give a better view of what the ref saw.

Thank you for the extra video from the reverse angle as it gives much better looks at both plays.
I can now definitely state that the player did NOT travel. He caught the ball with both feet on the floor. He then took a step towards the basket with his right foot. This makes his left foot the pivot. He next picked his left foot while transferring his weight to his right foot in motion towards the goal. Now he jumps off of the right foot and shoots prior to with foot returning to the floor.

The intentional foul is correct by the rules book. There is no attempt to play the ball and the offensive player is simply grabbed around the waist with both hands from behind (well, both from the side and behind as the defender comes from an angle). This is the call that the NFHS has been asking officials to make in their POEs for several years now. Just because it is still rare as many officials are resistant to following the NFHS instruction and making this call, doesn’t mean that it isn’t correct.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

.. different camera angle of the 2 plays.

A much better view of the travel. I don't think that it was a travel. I believe that the left foot was the pivot foot at possession and it didn't come back down before the ball was released on the try.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A much better view of the travel. I don't think that it was a travel. I believe that the left foot was the pivot foot at possession and it didn't come back down before the ball was released on the try.

I have the right foot as the pivot foot and think he traveled. But I sure would not be calling it from the Trail from that distance.

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[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

The YouTube video does not show a very good view of the "IPF". So my question to the Forum is: "Where in the hell is the IPF? Where the hell is a PF?"

MTD, Sr.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The YouTube video does not show a very good view of the "IPF". So my question to the Forum is: "Where in the hell is the IPF? Where the hell is a PF?"

MTD, Sr.

Check out some of the twitter feeds....definitely a foul, and a case can be made for IF