Wrong? number on a double foul

[Raymond]

I have changed the number of the fouler before based on the table, based on partners, based on players, and based on coaches.

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[BigCat]

Depends on situation...who’s at table. Ideally, you’ve got to know who you’re calling fouls on...(also ideally...get the first one so you’re not calling doubles) Hopefully your partners can help if your in a bind...lastly the table but I d have to know and trust them...There are tables I know will tell me truth regardless...and I’m willling to go down with them. There are other tables I can’t ever count on..Otherwise, you made the call and you’ll have to live with it.

You are right there.. and if your sure then stay with it. If your considering these other options sounds like your not sure. See above but if no one is sure or trustworthy it’s on you..

[thumpferee]

Turn around and see who's guarding white 11?

[billyu2]

Verbalizing at the spot of the double foul can be a huge help. And good for you for ruling it a double.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Verbalizing at the spot of the double foul can be a huge help. And good for you for ruling it a double.

I do that and I'm still think I'm going to confuse the double foul numbers by the time I get to the reporting area. That's the way my brain is wired, poorly.

I gave up trying to remember the shooter's number a long time ago. I'll point the shooter out to my partner, even state, "Shooter" while pointing, may even take a look at the shooter's appearance, but no way in hell will I look at the shooter's number because I guarantee that I'll confuse the fouler's number and the shooter's number by the time I get to the reporting area. Again, that's the way my brain is wired, poorly.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Dead Ball Efficiency. Fred Horgan of Canada has, for years, been giving a speech about Dead Ball Efficiency. I am sure that our brother and sister from the Great White Way and my fellow IAABO Members (in the U.S., Canada, and elsewhere) have now doubt heard it either in person or by video tape.

What is Dead Ball Efficiency and how does it relate to Double Fouls? Great question. The first thing to remember is that nothing good, for the most part, and happen when the Ball is Dead, so naturally, we want to minimize the amount of time the Ball is Dead. But, the second thing to remember is that taking time to get everything correct is not the same as dawdling and thereby unnecessarily extending the Dead Ball time period.

And the third thing to remember is that when one has to stop the game for an unusual situation, i.e., DFs, FDFs, MFs, FMFs, and TFs, is to not rush. Those few extra seconds to stop and check the numbers of the miscreants involved and then taking a few extra seconds to explain the Fouls when reporting them will actually shorten the time that the Ball will be Dead. It lessen the chance of being recalled to the Table to explain what happened and what will happen.

MTD, Sr.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I do that and I'm still think I'm going to confuse the double foul numbers by the time I get to the reporting area. That's the way my brain is wired, poorly.

I gave up trying to remember the shooter's number a long time ago. I'll point the shooter out to my partner, even state, "Shooter" while pointing, may even take a look at the shooter's appearance, but no way in hell will I look at the shooter's number because I guarantee that I'll confuse the fouler's number and the shooter's number by the time I get to the reporting area. Again, that's the way my brain is wired, poorly.

Well, in a few cases same here. But that is because of our age factor. The hope is, by "communicating" the numbers aloud, someone else (with good wiring) might be able to bail us out when needed.

[bucky]

If there is doubt, get all the input you can to get it correct, including, just asking the girls. I am yet, in officiating multiple sports, to ever have a female athlete not answer me truthfully, when I asked.