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Euro Step - Legal or illegal? Why either way? (Video)
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Hard to tell in real time, but in slow motion, he picked up the ball with his right foot still on the ground at the top of the circle. He stepped left (making the right the pivot), then stepped right again. Travel. Live, probably missed.
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Forget just the Euro Step, any move to the basket like this is a travel. His left foot to me is without question the pivot foot. He never plants it and puts it down again.
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slowing it down to freeze frame, it is absolutely not a travel. I was always taught if you were really quick to see violations like travel and 3 seconds, you wouldn't last long at higher levels. You should be liberal with the gather. In any event, freeze frame this, he hasn't picked the ball up in 2 hands before the step that would need to still be down for it to be a travel, is already off the floor. This is as clean as they come.
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It also doesn't take 2 hands to hold the ball. One under it is holding the ball and when the travel rule begins.
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I've got a freeze frame, left hand on the ball, both feet in the air, right foot has left the floor, left foot will be next. no College official, or High School official for that matter worth his salt, would call that a travel
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I have nothing in real time. Slowing it way down...as slow as I can..it looks to me that his left hand goes under the ball (ending the dribble) with right foot on floor at top of key making it pivot. I can’t see it well enough to be sure. In any event, as I said I have nothing in real time. It doesn’t help your game to be the only person on the floor calling travel.
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Yes, it is SO close I am sure I would never call it. But, if you're talking absolutes, it is a travel, just one that can't be confidently judged in real time....thus no call should ever be expected on it.
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Owner/Developer of RefTown.com Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association Last edited by Camron Rust; Mon Jan 07, 2019 at 02:05am. |
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I imagine we are seeing the same thing, I'm seeing the left hand on the side of the ball and the right-hand not on it, well some of you others are seeing that left hand under the ball and saying the dribble has thus been stopped. That hand isn't under the ball, it said about two-thirds of the way up the ball. I need to see that right hand also grab the ball before I would say the dribble is stopped. If you don't interpret it that way, you're going to see a whole lot more travels than I do in every single game.
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I have his dribble ended (gather complete) with his left foot down. He doesn't put that foot back down prior to releasing his try.
That's why it is called "judgment".
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A-hole formerly known as BNR Last edited by Raymond; Mon Jan 07, 2019 at 10:40am. |
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