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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 09:17pm
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Euro step travel last minute Dayton/Syr no way it gets called




Not gonna get called when games on the line??
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 10:01pm
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Not gonna get called when games on the line??
Totally agree. You can't call that when the game is on the line!!
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 10:25pm
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Not gonna get called when the game's not on the line.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 11:03pm
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are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 01:23am
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are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?
Seriously!

Perhaps he could take the video above and play it on a first generation iPhone and record it with a BetaMax Camcorder, play that back on a 1960's TV then record that with a modern cell phone.

Oh, wait, he already did that.


For those that feel that the video is so important that they have to shakily handhold a cell phone with their finger partly covering the lens to record what is showing on their TV....just don't.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:15am
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Totally agree. You can't call that when the game is on the line!!
So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:25am
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So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?
I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:13am
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I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.
I can't tell from the video either, and my philosophy on travels is similar to yours. In fact I probably call the fewest travels amongst other officials. I was commenting on their point of view regarding what calls to make when the game is "on the line".
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:48am
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The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:01am
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are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?
jeremy wins for most quantity of worst video, jump stop wins for worst quality of video.

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So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?
I was being sarcastic. Enforce the rules as written at all times.

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The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.
If jump stop's account wasn't three years old I would have thought we are hearing from potato again.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:46am
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The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.
I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.
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I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.
I call as many travels as anyone, and I don't see it here. If you have to freeze frame, back up, and slow motion to see it, I'd rather not call it.

On this play, even with those features, I can't tell.
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There's a guy on my old board named Randy that is known for accurate travel calls. I'd like to see him on these games. He'd call them I know he would. lol
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 01:03pm
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I tell new guys that if your 2 best calls are 3-second violations and travels you are going to have a tough career.
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I tell new guys that if your 2 best calls are 3-second violations and travels you are going to have a tough career.
Actually. Travels are the toughest call for me. Not block charges. Not weird out of bounds plays (I ask for help if I need it). Not managing coaches (piece of cake). I can easily get the travel at the start of a dribble, and have little problem with most dribble stops (determining when possession begins after picking up the dribble) but I always have a tough time with jump stops, especially the variety where the ball handler ends up with "no pivot feet" but may still legally try for goal after lifting his feet.
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