Euro step travel last minute Dayton/Syr no way it gets called

[jump stop]

Not gonna get called when games on the line??

Originally Posted by jump stop

Not gonna get called when games on the line??

Totally agree. You can't call that when the game is on the line!!

[just another ref]

Not gonna get called when the game's not on the line.

[Raymond]

are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?

Seriously!

Perhaps he could take the video above and play it on a first generation iPhone and record it with a BetaMax Camcorder, play that back on a 1960's TV then record that with a modern cell phone.

Oh, wait, he already did that.


For those that feel that the video is so important that they have to shakily handhold a cell phone with their finger partly covering the lens to record what is showing on their TV....just don't.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Totally agree. You can't call that when the game is on the line!!

So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?

I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Adam

I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.

I can't tell from the video either, and my philosophy on travels is similar to yours. In fact I probably call the fewest travels amongst other officials. I was commenting on their point of view regarding what calls to make when the game is "on the line".

[Rich]

The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?

jeremy wins for most quantity of worst video, jump stop wins for worst quality of video.

Originally Posted by deecee

So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?

I was being sarcastic. Enforce the rules as written at all times.

Originally Posted by Rich

The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.

If jump stop's account wasn't three years old I would have thought we are hearing from potato again.

[jump stop]

Originally Posted by Rich

The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.

I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jump stop

I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.

I call as many travels as anyone, and I don't see it here. If you have to freeze frame, back up, and slow motion to see it, I'd rather not call it.

On this play, even with those features, I can't tell.

[JugglingReferee]

There's a guy on my old board named Randy that is known for accurate travel calls. I'd like to see him on these games. He'd call them I know he would. lol

[deecee]

I tell new guys that if your 2 best calls are 3-second violations and travels you are going to have a tough career.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by deecee

I tell new guys that if your 2 best calls are 3-second violations and travels you are going to have a tough career.

Actually. Travels are the toughest call for me. Not block charges. Not weird out of bounds plays (I ask for help if I need it). Not managing coaches (piece of cake). I can easily get the travel at the start of a dribble, and have little problem with most dribble stops (determining when possession begins after picking up the dribble) but I always have a tough time with jump stops, especially the variety where the ball handler ends up with "no pivot feet" but may still legally try for goal after lifting his feet.