NFHS Part 2 Exam

[Raymond]

Rule 6-7 EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne shooter returns to the floor, when:

a. Article 5, 6, or 7 occurs while a try or tap for a field goal is in flight.

Article 6 is the horn sounding to end a quarter/extra period.

Not well written, but...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Rule 6-7 EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne shooter returns to the floor, when:

a. Article 5, 6, or 7 occurs while a try or tap for a field goal is in flight.

Article 6 is the horn sounding to end a quarter/extra period.

Not well written, but...

Interesting. I was thinking of this...

ART. 1 . . . A personal foul is a player foul which involves illegal contact with an opponent while the ball is live, which hinders an opponent from performing normal defensive and offensive movements. A personal foul also includes contact by or on an airborne shooter when the ball is dead.

I think I mixed up this, where a made goal does make the ball dead, even with an airborne shooter but expiration of time doesn't.

I think the primary point on these questions is that they are all generally true. There are nuanced exceptions. But, that is reading more into the questions than is there.

[Matt S.]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

But, that is reading more into the questions than is there.

This.

NCAA tests and quizzes actually ask 'real world,' situational cases that force you into the rules and case books.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

This.

NCAA tests and quizzes actually ask 'real world,' situational cases that force you into the rules and case books.

The answers for both are D.
These are NFHS rules exams. They test you on the word for word text in the book, not scenarios asking you to make a ruling on a situation.
Basically, if the text is in the book, it is a correct answer on these exams.

[Matt S.]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The answers for both are D.
These are NFHS rules exams. They test you on the word for word text in the book, not scenarios asking you to make a ruling on a situation.
Basically, if the text is in the book, it is a correct answer on these exams.

I agree, and that's how I responded. But the answer was not D (at least for one of them...I don't have my paper test with me).

Unfortunately, in my state, they do not provide the correct answer upon submission thru the online portal.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Interesting. I was thinking of this...



I think I mixed up this, where a made goal does make the ball dead, even with an airborne shooter but expiration of time doesn't.

I think the primary point on these questions is that they are all generally true. There are nuanced exceptions. But, that is reading more into the questions than is there.

Camron, I think we discussed this confusion last year. Even if the try was good the ball is not dead until the airborne shooter returns to the floor. Rule 6-7 Exception is correct and the supporting case play is 6.7.4. In part, "Airborne shooter A1's foul is a player control foul which does cause the ball to become dead immediately . . . even if the ball had gone through the basket before the foul."

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Camron, I think we discussed this confusion last year. Even if the try was good the ball is not dead until the airborne shooter returns to the floor. Rule 6-7 Exception is correct and the supporting case play is 6.7.4. In part, "Airborne shooter A1's foul is a player control foul which does cause the ball to become dead immediately . . . even if the ball had gone through the basket before the foul."

I disagree. There is no ambiguity on a made goal making the ball dead....there are no exceptions attached to that line.

You skipped a part in the case citation that changes the meaning.

6.7.4's point about making the ball dead immediately is right. The underlying situation is that the shot was still in flight. They go on to say that even if it wasn't and had already gone in, the goal still doesn't count. That statement does not support the claim that the ball is still live after a made goal.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I disagree. There is no ambiguity on a made goal making the ball dead....there are no exceptions attached to that line.

You skipped a part in the case citation that changes the meaning.

6.7.4's point about making the ball dead immediately is right. The underlying situation is that the shot was still in flight. They go on to say that even if it wasn't and had already gone in, the goal still doesn't count. That statement does not support the claim that the ball is still live after a made goal.

Correct. The exception is attached to 6-7-7 in regards to a foul which occurs by a defender during a try for goal or by an airborne shooter returning to the floor.