Travelling/sitting

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Except that video does not reflect what is being talked about in the ruling. I don't see that player putting the ball on the floor and getting up. The ball is already on the floor, the player touches it to stop it from rolling, then gets up. At no time was that player holding the ball...no player control established, which is what would be necessary to have a travel.

Agree. Can the touch to prevent the roll be considered a "controlled" touch?

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. Can the touch to prevent the roll be considered a "controlled" touch?

Think you are answering your own question. Would not the words "touch to prevent" = control?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

Think you are answering your own question. Would not the words "touch to prevent" = control?

No.

Control != Player Control.

A tap for a goal is controlled but it isn't player control.

Control, for the purposes of the traveling rule required holding the ball...no hold, no travel. Briefly pinning the ball between a hand and the floor isn't holding to me.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

A tap for a goal is controlled but it isn't player control.

Agree, but let's be careful to not confuse the young'uns.

A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling
a live ball.

A tap for goal is the contacting of the ball with any part of a player’s
hand(s) in an attempt to direct the ball into his/her basket.

The definitions in the NFHS Rulebook may not be the same as the definitions in Funk and Wagnalls.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree, but let's be careful to not confuse the young'uns.

A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling
a live ball.

A tap for goal is the contacting of the ball with any part of a player’s
hand(s) in an attempt to direct the ball into his/her basket.

The definitions in the NFHS Rulebook may not be the same as the definitions in Funk and Wagnalls.

Agree...that is precisely my point.

The player never held the ball while on the floor....it was more of a hand-check!

He did potentially travel when he stood up and grabbed the ball...he may have grabbed it before his knee lifted but that is really close and I'd lean towards no travel on that one too.