D3 Player Takes Cheap Shot

[RefsNCoaches]

Anybody see this? No place for this anywhere...maybe WWE....

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/11/fit...player-college

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by RefsNCoaches

Anybody see this? No place for this anywhere...maybe WWE....

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/11/fit...player-college

Just saw this myself. Yikes

[Nevadaref]

College Basketball Player Viciously Elbows Opponent in Face During Disgusting Play | TMZ.com

The above link has the video.




This could be the dirtiest play in sports history ... a scumbag college basketball player straight-up elbowing an opponent in the FACE after shooting a 3-pointer ... and the video will piss you off.
This all went down on Tuesday night ... when Division III teams Fitchburg State and Nichols were playing in Massachusetts.
The guy who throws the 'bow is Fitchburg junior guard Kewan Platt ... ironically enough, he's a criminal justice major.
The man on the receiving end of the punch is Nichols guard Nate Tenaglia.
People are RAGING about the video on social media ... and Michael Rapaport is calling for Platt to be arrested.
Platt was called for a flagrant foul ... and Fitchburg ended up losing the game.
We've reached out to Fitchburg State, Nichols and the Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Commission for comment ... so far, no word back.
Originally Published -- 9:42 AM PST

UPDATE:

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10:07 AM PT -- Fitchburg State has suspended Platt and barred him from campus for an unspecified amount of time.
"The Fitchburg State community is appalled by the conduct displayed during Tuesday night’s home basketball game."
"His behavior is antithetical to our community values and good sportsmanship. Fitchburg State does not tolerate behavior that violates those standards. The case is being reviewed at the student conduct level for consideration of further sanctions."
9:57 AM PT -- We spoke with the athletic director at Nichols College ... who says Tenaglia was able to return to the game and is doing fine ... and says the Fitchburg State athletic director called him to apologize for the incident and will hand down punishment accordingly.

[Rufus]

Besides the elbow itself is that the kid looked at the L to see if he was watching the shooter (i.e., if the coast was clear to throw the elbow). Guess he forgot it was a 3-man crew (and good job by the T staying with the shooter).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Guess he forgot it was a 3-man crew (and good job by the T staying with the shooter).

Reminder to all of us still officiating in the Pleistocene Epoch with two person crews to stay with shooter as the lead on this corner three point shot attempt.

[grunewar]

This has gone viral and is all over the web. As noted in another post, the player was suspended and banned from campus. I'm sure that's only the tip of the iceberg and there's more to come.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Besides the elbow itself is that the kid looked at the L to see if he was watching the shooter (i.e., if the coast was clear to throw the elbow). Guess he forgot it was a 3-man crew (and good job by the T staying with the shooter).

He apparently forgot that there were cameras too. SMH.

Wish more video was available. Probably is if one digs. I am curious as to why that player did that. What would provoke such an incident? Did the offended player make some previous threat or perform a dirty play that went unnoticed? It had to have been something. No one does that without a reason. Not saying it would be a valid reason, just saying that something triggered him.

[ChuckS]

Originally Posted by bucky

Wish more video was available. Probably is if one digs. I am curious as to why that player did that. What would provoke such an incident? Did the offended player make some previous threat or perform a dirty play that went unnoticed? It had to have been something. No one does that without a reason. Not saying it would be a valid reason, just saying that something triggered him.

As you said, not a valid reason, but he appeared to be fouled by the kid he assaulted, on an airball 3-pt attempt just prior. I had to replay the video several times and stop it, but if you do that, it looks like contact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcrJ18yjok

[crosscountry55]

The last word is a precious commodity to some...


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[Rich]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

The last word is a precious commodity to some...


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I never did get an answer to my question, either:

Is it somehow better to be wrong calling it a live ball F2 if it's really a dead ball (and therefore should've been a flagrant technical) than if you get it wrong in the other direction (call it a dead ball flagrant TF when it should've been a live ball F2)?

Oh, well. Sucked into the vortex, like always.

[ilyazhito]

If the shot was already successful when the flagrant foul happened, then it would be a flagrant 2 technical foul, the ball would be put in play at the division line after 2 free throws by ANY player.
If the shot was not yet successful at the time of the flagrant foul, then it would be a flagrant 2 personal foul, the ball would be put in play at the nearest designated spot (the nearest spot to the corner is the 28' mark on that side) following 2 free throws by THE VICTIM of the flagrant foul.
In either case, the offender would be ejected from the game, but it is important to be clear on what type of foul happened, because it affects further administration of the game. If I was on the crew, I would send the players to the benches, talk to the T before he reports the foul (unless I am the T, in which case I would call the other officials together and tell them that I have a flagrant 2 foul on White 23, and that he will be ejected from the game. I would ask L and C if the foul was before or after the ball entered the basket, and finally contribute my input. Then, we would decide how to adjudicate the play), and then decide whether the ball entered the basket before or after the foul as a crew. Then, we would adjudicate the play appropriately.

I would call this a flagrant 2 technical foul, because the official had time to signal the successful shot before he called the foul (i.e. the ball had entered the basket before the foul was committed).

[Altor]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

(i.e. the ball had entered the basket before the foul was committed).

Entering the basket does not make the ball dead.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Altor

Entering the basket does not make the ball dead.

The ball entering the basket and remaining in or passing through the basket ends the try for goal. Since the player was fouled after the shot was successfully completed, the ball would be remain dead (the ball is dead after a player scores and until the ball is at the disposal of a player from the team scored upon for the subsequent throw-in), and the resulting foul would be a technical foul.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

I never did get an answer to my question, either:

Is it somehow better to be wrong calling it a live ball F2 if it's really a dead ball (and therefore should've been a flagrant technical) than if you get it wrong in the other direction (call it a dead ball flagrant TF when it should've been a live ball F2)?

Oh, well. Sucked into the vortex, like always.

And you won't because he doesn't have an answer.

Shocking.

[crosscountry55]

I don’t work college basketball. But based on my desire for humility and some sage advice offered on this forum last year, if I ever do work college, I will refuse to offer that fact when offering any opinions about officiating. To do otherwise is fruitless showboating.

It is one thing to clarify the rules set in question. That’s perfectly ok. But “I’m a college...” and “My college assignor says...”. are not helpful additions to any officiating discussion.

My 2¢.


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