D3 Player Takes Cheap Shot

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

I didn't scan through the last 6 pages to see if anyone mentioned the Lead's position, but this is a perfect example why you must work hard to get "outside-in" position. The Lead is closed off and tunnel visioned. I have an assignor who wouldn't raise h*** over whether its a F2 Personal or Technical Foul, but he would target the Lead on his position.

Especially, since this video shows the Trail watching the flight of the ball, it's a perfect example to show why Lead must open up on those corner shots! Thank God Trail had enough courage to trust his gut because Lead was no help!

I think we need to see the actual coach's video here. If you saw the play broken down, the Lead has like 8 players in the lane. He cannot concentrate that hard on 2 players which the Trail should be doing nothing but looking at that shot attempt. There is even a crash in the lane on a pass that led to the shot attempt.

Well here is the play for better understanding.

[Pantherdreams]

Not to derail thread. This is bad and I think it was handled as well as an unexpected play like this can be by the crew.

The kid deserves whatever punishment he gets.

On an quasi related note: I'm seeing all this stuff out there about dirtiest play ever, worst flagrant foul, assault etc. Not to be the get off my lawn old guy but is this a case of millenial social media and immediacy bias pretending the Jordan rules weren't a thing, that Karl Malone didn't give Isiah Thomas 40 stitches minutes in the 1st quarter of a regular season game, that anything that didn't happen after 2000 didn't really happen???

Laetner just had a documentary made about him stomping on a guy for goodness sake.

Is this bad? Heck yeah. Could we not act like throughout the history of basketball a guy hitting a shooter with a dirty elbow is the worst thing that has ever happened.

[so cal lurker]

Of course, we live in the era of hyperbole. But this is up there. And it isn't just a "dirty elbow." This isn't a heat of moment thing. This is a player coming out after the play is over, looking at the (wrong) ref to see he isn't looking, and throwing a pre-meditated elbow into a face. There was no instigation (in the immediate term) from the victim. Pre-meditated, brutal fouls that aren't connected to the game (the Jordan rules were about fouling the guy with the ball) are awfully rare.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Pre-meditated, brutal fouls that aren't connected to the game (the Jordan rules were about fouling the guy with the ball) are awfully rare.

Jordan rules might have been about fouling the guy with the ball but it wasn't about making a basketball play. Malone and McHale might have clotheslined guys or throw elbows at guys going up for a layup but I don't think that just because it was in the middle of a basketball play as opposed to when one has just ended changes the brutality or the intent.

All of those as premeditated and brutal (by todays standards). In 2013 Beverly ended Westbrook's season by taking out his knees as a timeout was being called. Was he making a basketball play? More so than this guy but not much and the purpose was the same. Physical intimidation and attempt to injure.

Sorry. Go back to your regular useful discussion on this topic.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well here is the play for better understanding.

Thanks for posting that video... I never knew this resource was available.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Thanks for posting that video... I never knew this resource was available.

He has some really awesome stuff. I used his videos often for presentations and meetings.

Peace