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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:37pm
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As an official, this is a F2. I think T caught it late because of the way he reacted. Wish he had seen it more clearly. But the result was proper.

As a non-official.....that’s felony aggravated assault and should be charged as such.


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Flagrant technical.

The police should've been called. Just cause it happened during a game doesn't mean he shouldn't have been arrested for battery.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:33pm
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Longer footage is widely available on the web, which might bring up issues regarding either 1) the difference between NFHS and NCAA-M signaling and subsequent upgrading of the foul to a flagrant (NFHS) or flagrant 2 (NCAA-M), or 2) whether or not the covering official, having turned his head toward the flight of the ball, saw the actual foul or reacted only to the outcome of the foul.
We're grateful he made the call which ultimately led to the correct adjudication. I'm only analyzing mechanically, and not purely critically.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:36pm
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Longer footage is widely available on the web, which might bring up issues regarding either 1) the difference between NFHS and NCAA-M signaling and subsequent upgrading of the foul to a flagrant (NFHS) or flagrant 2 (NCAA-M), and 2) whether or not the covering official, having turned his head toward the flight of the ball, saw the actual foul or reacted only to the outcome of the foul.

We're grateful he made the call which ultimately led to the correct adjudication. I'm only analyzing mechanically, and not purely critically.


The shot wasn't contested. I'd expect the trail to move his eyes towards rebounding action. Good thing he picked up the kid with a brick in his hand and covered the play.

Crew did its job.


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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:36pm
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Flagrant technical.

The police should've been called. Just cause it happened during a game doesn't mean he shouldn't have been arrested for battery.
I actually have this occurring while the ball is live, thus a flagrant personal (NFHS) or F2 personal (NCAA). Not that it “really” matters, but still.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:39pm
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I actually have this occurring while the ball is live, thus a flagrant personal (NFHS) or F2 personal (NCAA). Not that it “really” matters, but still.

It's close. Looks like the ball is 3/4 through the net when the foul occurs. So technically.....

Without replay, I'm likely going T.


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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:08pm
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This falls within the realm of fighting. Flagrant 3.

ESPN reported:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...ay-bars-campus
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:17pm
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It's close. Looks like the ball is 3/4 through the net when the foul occurs. So technically.....

Without replay, I'm likely going T.
I get that. I doubt anyone would be too concerned about the personal/technical aspect of this foul as long as it was picked up.

The only difference between F2 personal vs. technical in this situation would be the throw-in spot; since the shooter went out with an injury on a flagrant foul, anyone would be able to shoot the free throws if personal was ruled.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:55pm
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The shooter / victim shot the FT.

Looks like simply a flagrant 2 according to the box score / play by play.
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Clear case of OOO

he was no longer an air born shooter, i got incidental contact, play on
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:40am
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Clear case of OOO

he was no longer an air born shooter, i got incidental contact, play on
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:54am
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The shooter / victim shot the FT.

Looks like simply a flagrant 2 according to the box score / play by play.
Interesting, I thought it said he went out of the game for concussion protocol.
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