Nine second rim hang = no call

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks ilyazhito.

That dead ball comment from the L2M Report has been a bee in my bonnet since the original post of the L2M Report. Hopefully the bee has moved on to somebody else's bonnet.

Basing your opinions on ilyazhito's thoughts will get you stung.

He has yet to post a ruling that applies to this situation. Shoot, he didn't even know the ball never became live or that it bounded out towards the division line.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

He has yet to post a ruling that applies to this situation.

Didn't he post this: NBA Rulebook Rule 12-IV-a ... an offensive player who deliberately hangs on his basket ring, net backboard, or support during the game shall be assessed a non-unsportsmanlike technical foul ... a defensive player may not deliberately hang on the ring.

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

... timeout can only be called by a player or head coach of the team in control.

He may have had a brain hiccup on the made basket/dead ball/timeout situation?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Didn't he post this: NBA Rulebook Rule 12-IV-a ... an offensive player who deliberately hangs on his basket ring, net backboard, or support during the game shall be assessed a non-unsportsmanlike technical foul ... a defensive player may not deliberately hang on the ring.



He may have had a brain hiccup on the made basket/dead ball/timeout situation?

LeBron was neither a defensive player nor an offensive player; the ball was dead, which has been repeated by me ad nauseam. The ball being dead for a time-out has explicitly been stated as ONE of the reasons LeBron was not T'd up. Your buddy has yet to post a ruling concerning hanging on the rim during a time-out, intermission, or pre-game. What is so difficult to understand about that?

After the made dunk shot, James (LAL) remains on the rim after the timeout is called and players have cleared the area under the rim. The ball is dead and he is not taunting or delaying the game

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

What is so difficult to understand about that?

It was a group effort to bring us all to the same interpretation.

bucky started the thread and provided the video:

Originally Posted by bucky

https://youtu.be/5N2XdRsrMeo

Altor provided the Last Two Minute Report.

Originally Posted by Altor

Last two-minute report

ilyazhito provided the NBA rule citations.

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

NBA Rulebook Rule 12-IV-a says that an offensive player who deliberately hangs on his basket ring, net backboard, or support during the game shall be assessed a non-unsportsmanlike technical foul.

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Rule 12-IV states that a defensive player may not deliberately hang on the ring.

Raymond provided the very important clarification that there is a dead ball exception to the NBA rule posted by ilyazhito.

Originally Posted by Raymond

... find the rule that states an NBA player can't hang on the rim during a dead ball ...

Originally Posted by Raymond

Or after the ball becomes live again which it never did in this situation

Yes, there were some wrong turns along our path, some initiated by me, but we eventually got to where we wanted to go.

It turned out to be an interesting trip.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

... the ball was dead ... The ball being dead for a time-out has explicitly been stated as ONE of the reasons LeBron was not T'd up.

Yes it was, but there were two dovetailing dead ball periods, both leading to correct no-calls for possible technical fouls.

The first dead ball and correct no-call for a technical foul had nothing to do with the timeout but has to do with the dead ball immediately after the successful goal.

It was the timeout that prevented the ball from becoming live, continuing the status of the ball being dead, and thus the correct no-call for a technical foul.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Yes it was, but there were two dovetailing dead ball periods, both leading to correct no-calls for possible technical fouls.

The first dead ball and correct no-call for a technical foul had nothing to do with the timeout but has to do with the dead ball immediately after the successful goal.

It was the timeout that prevented the ball from becoming live, continuing the status of the ball being dead, and thus the correct no-call for a technical foul.

This was merely what the NBA provided as a comment. Furthermore, as I have provided, the NBA has also commented where a T should have been called (during same dead ball period after made basket and TO) but it was not. Therein lies one of the inconsistencies. Fun isn't it?

[Altor]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Basing your opinions on ilyazhito's thoughts will get you stung.

He has yet to post a ruling that applies to this situation.

My comment was based on what I assumed were fairly direct quotes from the NBA rulebook. Those were the only parts of his post that I took any credence in since they appeared to be from a source that wasn't ilyazhito .