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Old Sun Jul 22, 2018, 07:27pm
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Officiating in the JBA

You may have heard about the JBA, the new basketball league that LaVar Ball created to be an alternative to the NCAA. Many players in the JBA are those who would be ineligible for the NCAA, and who would have to go to junior colleges to improve their grades, or athletes who are interested more in becoming professional athletes than getting an education. I would assume that the level of play in the JBA is between an upper-level varsity and D2 level of play, based on game videos.

Just like the NCAA, G-League, or NBA, the JBA needs officials to function. How does the hiring process work? Does the JBA have tryout camps, like the various collegiate (NCAA/NJCAA/NAIA) conferences, the NBA, and even the semi-pro ABA, or does it rely on local high school officials recommended by their assigners? I tried to contact the JBA about officiating through the email address provided on their website, but I did not receive a response.

If anyone has any information, I'd be interested to hear it. Maybe the JBA will become as viable a pipeline to the NBA for officials as it is for players.

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Old Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:52pm
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… Maybe the JBA will become as viable a pipeline to the NBA for officials as it is for players.
As in completely unviable? Then I agree.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:01pm
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If the league is around more than one season I would be shocked. So I would not count on what was done to hire officials for this season as a gauge for how it is going to go further. I doubt seriously that this league is flying officials across the country to play games.

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Old Mon Jul 23, 2018, 04:46am
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If the league is around more than one season I would be shocked. So I would not count on what was done to hire officials for this season as a gauge for how it is going to go further. I doubt seriously that this league is flying officials across the country to play games.

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This league expects all officials to drive to and from all assignments, and insists that each woman official "stay in her lane" as she travels back and forth.

And all games might not pay a full fee to all officials, as in when a coach decides to pull his team off the floor early to protest the perceived quality of officiating.

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Old Mon Jul 23, 2018, 07:14am
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Never heard of it, and I wouldn't trust it.
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Old Mon Jul 23, 2018, 07:18am
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This sentence should be in blue font: "Maybe the JBA will become as viable a pipeline to the NBA for officials as it is for players."

If I refereed JBA games, I'd insist on getting paid in cash and in advance.
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Old Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:25am
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This sentence should be in blue font: "Maybe the JBA will become as viable a pipeline to the NBA for officials as it is for players."

If I refereed JBA games, I'd insist on getting paid in cash and in advance.
Good idea! I thought NBA mechanics = good practice for G-League camp, but if it is a shitshow, I'd rather work high school ball and D3 before trying out for G-League camp.
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Old Mon Jul 23, 2018, 08:57am
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Why would anyone want to work in a league run by that yahoo?

Don't hold your breath on making any strides in your career through this league. Matter of fact, I wouldn't hold your breath on getting paid for your games worked, either.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:14am
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You may have heard about the JBA, the new basketball league that LaVar Ball created to be an alternative to the NCAA. Many players in the JBA are those who would be ineligible for the NCAA, and who would have to go to junior colleges to improve their grades, or athletes who are interested more in becoming professional athletes than getting an education. I would assume that the level of play in the JBA is between an upper-level varsity and D2 level of play, based on game videos.

Just like the NCAA, G-League, or NBA, the JBA needs officials to function. How does the hiring process work? Does the JBA have tryout camps, like the various collegiate (NCAA/NJCAA/NAIA) conferences, the NBA, and even the semi-pro ABA, or does it rely on local high school officials recommended by their assigners? I tried to contact the JBA about officiating through the email address provided on their website, but I did not receive a response.

If anyone has any information, I'd be interested to hear it. Maybe the JBA will become as viable a pipeline to the NBA for officials as it is for players.
To answer your question, since everybody else here wants to be holier than thou high school state final officials (who gives a damn) every time you try to ask a question:

Since there are so few games in the league (JBA), they have been assigned by "bigger name" officials in the area near the host city, to guys that have more experience. The pay is $500/game, and they are one off assignments (not try out to get on the staff roster or anything like that).

To other points - keep being excited about officiating, have a plan, and in that plan, have a way you are going to accomplish each step. Don't worry about people shooting you down for asking questions, but also be wary as coming off as a know-it-all.

Keep asking questions and trying to learn.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:24am
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To answer your question, since everybody else here wants to be holier than thou high school state final officials (who gives a damn) every time you try to ask a question:

To other points - keep being excited about officiating, have a plan, and in that plan, have a way you are going to accomplish each step. Don't worry about people shooting you down for asking questions, but also be wary as coming off as a know-it-all.

Keep asking questions and trying to learn.
Stop.

No one is shooting him down for asking questions. People are advising him that he's getting too far ahead of himself and coming across as arrogant/clueless.

You can be excited about officiating without having every detail spelled out for you or listing all your accomplishments when you have limited, if any, varsity experience. And if you don't want to listen to what veteran officials have to say, keep quiet or move on. Don't keep questioning everything and asking for more detail.

The only one being holier-than-thou is yourself.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:33am
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Stop.

No one is shooting him down for asking questions. People are advising him that he's getting too far ahead of himself and coming across as arrogant/clueless.

You can be excited about officiating without having every detail spelled out for you or listing all your accomplishments when you have limited, if any, varsity experience. And if you don't want to listen to what veteran officials have to say, keep quiet or move on. Don't keep questioning everything and asking for more detail.

The only one being holier-than-thou is yourself.
If you don't want to answer questions about details .........................

........... don't reply.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:30am
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If you don't want to answer questions about details .........................

........... don't reply.
It's not a matter of want–it's a matter of teaching a man to fish and sharing "tough love" perspectives based on experience. I fail to see how this is holier-than-thou in any way.

Given that you're the only one that seems to have an issue with the responses to this poster, I'm pretty comfortable with my position.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:40am
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If you don't want to answer questions about details .........................

........... don't reply.
You are actually right, but that is also not the point. He has specifically taken comments from others and asked questions of them based on their comments. Now if that is the case, we have the right to not only respond but get into a dialog about the situation. And if you are asking a question and the main people on this site are getting frustrated with his or your arrogance in having a retort for every comment, then that is why the response is the way it is. Honestly, I could give a damn. Been here long enough and see a lot of fo people on this site make all kinds of claims of what they are going to do to what they think others do not know. I have no problem sharing my perspective so that others do not make similar mistakes I made. On many levels, I was this guy almost 20 years ago. And in that process I have met many, many from this site or that know exactly who I am. We are not only addressing his questions but telling him what is best to proceed. If we did not want to answer the questions we would not say anything. There are many people here that say nothing for a reason. Many of us are trying to help. Take it or leave it. That is also a lesson you learn as an official. You do not have to take everyone's opinion to heart. But it is better if you just say that to yourself and not those that are talking to you directly.

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Old Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:24pm
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You do not have to take everyone's opinion to heart. But it is better if you just say that to yourself and not those that are talking to you directly.
When I first started going to camps, this was a tough lesson for me to learn. Putting on the stripes, whether in a camp setting or for a game (at any level) opens you up for constant criticism and critique. Some of it will be good and some of it not so much, but learning to take it without being defensive (i.e., silently) and then sort out the useful is something we all have to learn at some point ... especially if we want to move up.
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