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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 07:18am
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5.3.2 Primary Coverage Areas Section E Line Coverage #5 (page 75).
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 07:48am
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5.3.2 Primary Coverage Areas Section E Line Coverage #5 (page 75).
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 08:40am
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 04:35pm
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So it's only a mechanic, and not a rule, or interpretation, that allows an official to change his out of bounds call.



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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 04:46pm
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NFHS Rule 2 Section 6 Officials’ Authority: No official has the authority to set aside or question decisions made by the other official(s) within the limits of their respective outlined duties.

This NFHS rule (above) says that we can't overrule our partner.

This IAABO mechanic (below) says the we can offer help on (but not overrule) violations:

IAABO Mechanic Violations: Officials may seek help or offer help to ensure accurate rulings.
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 04:59pm
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NFHS Rule 2 Section 6 Officials’ Authority: No official has the authority to set aside or question decisions made by the other official(s) within the limits of their respective outlined duties.

This NFHS rule (above) says that we can't overrule our partner.

This IAABO mechanic (below) says the we can offer help on (but not overrule) violations:

IAABO Mechanic Violations: Officials may seek help or offer help to ensure accurate rulings.
When did the discussion change to overruling a partner? You give your partner information.

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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 05:10pm
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When did the discussion change to overruling a partner?
It didn't, but this rule citation was the only one I could find that had anything to do with changing calls.

As IAABO officials, we are told never to overrule our partner, as the NFHS rule tells us, but that mechanics allow us to offer help when needed.

BillyMac: "Blue ball" (After ball goes out of bounds, and whistle is sounded).
Partner: (Sounds whistle and takes several steps toward BillyMac) "Did you see that the ball touched Blue 22's finger right before it went out of bounds? I got a great look at it, and you may have been straightlined."
BillyMac: "Thanks for the help. (Sounds whistle) White ball."
Partner: "By the way BillyMac, you're calling a great game tonight and, if I might add, you're looking exceedingly handsome tonight".

From my pregame: For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional
signal. No need to come to me, just point. If you don't know, give me a jump ball signal. If I signal, but
I get it wrong, then blow the whistle, and come to me. Tell me what you saw, and let me decide if I’m
going to change it.
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 09:38am
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Billy, please don't make an additional 10 posts replying to yourself.
I wish that would end it too. But unfortunately, this reference does not state how that is done exactly. It just references that the ruling can be made by an official outside the primary, but they should give the primary official first opportunity. It does not say how you do that or when you do that related to a foul or violation.

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