Change Out Of Bounds Call ...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Whether, or not, the visual call, or oral call, or both, can be changed is another topic. In some very specific cases officials routinely change calls (out of bounds call, partner comes in with a much better look, calling official decides to change call).

I brought this (above) over from another thread because I wanted to confirm that official can actually do this, i.e., change his out of bounds call.

I've been routinely doing this (out of bounds call, partner comes in with a much better look, calling official decides to change call) as the calling, or noncalling, official for almost four decades, but, until now, I never sought out a rules reference.

I perused the NFHS Rulebook, and NFHS Casebook, and annual interpretations, and could find no such reference.

I did find this (below) in the IAABO Mechanics Manual.

Violation Procedures
B. Violation Reminders
2. Officials may seek help or offer help to ensure accurate rulings.

I don't have access to a NFHS Mechanics Manual.

Is it only a mechanic, and not a rule, or interpretation, that allows an official to change his out of bounds call (or other violations)?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Is it only a mechanic, and not a rule, or interpretation, that allows an official to change his out of bounds call (or other violations)?

Is this microphone working?

All I need is a "Yes", or "No", answer (maybe with a rule, or interpretation, citation if the answer is "No").

How about a citation from the NFHS Mechanics Manual (not available to me)?

[JRutledge]

I have a manual and I could not find a single reference about how to handle out of bounds calls or changes to those calls if the partners have a different position.

There are too many things that we deal with that the manual never addresses or if it does address the situation, it does not address the actual real-world situation.

And maybe why we should stop relying so heavily on everything stated in these books when they do not cover all kinds of situations. I believe the CCA Manual does cover this, but I would have to look it up for a specific reference.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have a manual and I could not find a single reference about how to handle out of bounds calls or changes to those calls if the partners have a different position.

Thanks for looking. In the IAABO Mechanics Manual it's under "Violations". Maybe likewise in the NFHS manual, or a college manual?

[Lcubed48]

Yes

5.3.2 Primary Coverage Areas Section E Line Coverage #5 (page 75).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Yes

5.3.2 Primary Coverage Areas Section E Line Coverage #5 (page 75).

Thank you.

Billy, please don't make an additional 10 posts replying to yourself.

[walt]

Yes.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Yes.

Originally Posted by walt

Yes.

So it's only a mechanic, and not a rule, or interpretation, that allows an official to change his out of bounds call.



Thanks guys.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Thank you.

Billy, please don't make an additional 10 posts replying to yourself.

I wish that would end it too. But unfortunately, this reference does not state how that is done exactly. It just references that the ruling can be made by an official outside the primary, but they should give the primary official first opportunity. It does not say how you do that or when you do that related to a foul or violation.

Peace