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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 05:53am
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Is it only a mechanic, and not a rule, or interpretation, that allows an official to change his out of bounds call (or other violations)?
Is this microphone working?

All I need is a "Yes", or "No", answer (maybe with a rule, or interpretation, citation if the answer is "No").

How about a citation from the NFHS Mechanics Manual (not available to me)?
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 07:16am
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Attempted to look it up.

I have a manual and I could not find a single reference about how to handle out of bounds calls or changes to those calls if the partners have a different position.

There are too many things that we deal with that the manual never addresses or if it does address the situation, it does not address the actual real-world situation.

And maybe why we should stop relying so heavily on everything stated in these books when they do not cover all kinds of situations. I believe the CCA Manual does cover this, but I would have to look it up for a specific reference.

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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 04:29pm
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I have a manual and I could not find a single reference about how to handle out of bounds calls or changes to those calls if the partners have a different position.
Thanks for looking. In the IAABO Mechanics Manual it's under "Violations". Maybe likewise in the NFHS manual, or a college manual?
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 07:18am
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5.3.2 Primary Coverage Areas Section E Line Coverage #5 (page 75).
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 07:48am
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5.3.2 Primary Coverage Areas Section E Line Coverage #5 (page 75).
Thank you.

Billy, please don't make an additional 10 posts replying to yourself.
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 04:35pm
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Yes.
So it's only a mechanic, and not a rule, or interpretation, that allows an official to change his out of bounds call.



Thanks guys.
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 04:46pm
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NFHS Rule 2 Section 6 Officials’ Authority: No official has the authority to set aside or question decisions made by the other official(s) within the limits of their respective outlined duties.

This NFHS rule (above) says that we can't overrule our partner.

This IAABO mechanic (below) says the we can offer help on (but not overrule) violations:

IAABO Mechanic Violations: Officials may seek help or offer help to ensure accurate rulings.
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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 04:59pm
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NFHS Rule 2 Section 6 Officials’ Authority: No official has the authority to set aside or question decisions made by the other official(s) within the limits of their respective outlined duties.

This NFHS rule (above) says that we can't overrule our partner.

This IAABO mechanic (below) says the we can offer help on (but not overrule) violations:

IAABO Mechanic Violations: Officials may seek help or offer help to ensure accurate rulings.
When did the discussion change to overruling a partner? You give your partner information.

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Old Tue May 29, 2018, 09:38am
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Sorry to even say this....... but.......

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Billy, please don't make an additional 10 posts replying to yourself.
I wish that would end it too. But unfortunately, this reference does not state how that is done exactly. It just references that the ruling can be made by an official outside the primary, but they should give the primary official first opportunity. It does not say how you do that or when you do that related to a foul or violation.

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