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Old Mon Mar 26, 2018, 07:51am
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The dainty hands on the hips for a block would elicit the same reaction with me as someone using this "score the goal" signal.


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Yeah, I don't like either of those signals. Sometimes I'll do the hands-on-the-hip thing depending on my audience. I never do that basket-scored signal. I go with 2 fingers straight out.
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Sometimes I'll do the hands-on-the-hip thing depending on my audience.
Bad habit, but I almost always give a preliminary signal for a block with my fists closed on my hips. By the time I get to the table I remember to do it the correct way with open hands. At least I'm right half of the time.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 08:59am
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Bad habit, but I almost always give a preliminary signal for a block with my fists closed on my hips. By the time I get to the table I remember to do it the correct way with open hands. At least I'm right half of the time.
Does that mean at most you are wrong half the time?
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:25am
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Does that mean at most you are wrong half the time?
It means no self-respecting supervisor gives a damn. I have never heard anyone complain what hand signal is given when using a preliminary signal in over 20 years.

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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:33am
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It means no self-respecting supervisor gives a damn. I have never heard anyone complain what hand signal is given when using a preliminary signal in over 20 years.

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Yea, I know what it means. Ergo, the emoticon () used. I was simply teasing....and trying to catch BM with regards to number of posts.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:54am
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Yea, I know what it means. Ergo, the emoticon () used. I was simply teasing....and trying to catch BM with regards to number of posts.
And I was simply telling the straight truth.

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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:40am
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It means no self-respecting supervisor gives a damn. I have never heard anyone complain what hand signal is given when using a preliminary signal in over 20 years.

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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 04:32pm
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It means no self-respecting supervisor gives a damn. I have never heard anyone complain what hand signal is given when using a preliminary signal in over 20 years
Our assignment commissioner definitely doesn't, but our trained observers, who observe for the purpose of promotion (subvarsity to varsity), certainly do.

Of course, correct hand signals do not, alone, make a good basketball official. There are a lot of other things, most a lot more important than hand signals, that our trained observers look for.

Correct hand signals are just one very small piece of the puzzle.

RATINGS GUIDELINES FOR EVALUATION

APPEARANCE AND CONDITIONING
Official is in physical condition and exhibits hustle and energy through the game.
Official’s uniform and overall appearance is neat, clean and well kept.

MECHANICS
Utilizes proper mechanics, up-to-date techniques and procedures as detailed in the IAABO Officials Manual.
Performs accurate foul reporting and clock administration.
Has a resonant, strong voice that is supported by proper mechanics for purpose of clarification

TEAM WORK
Has the ability to work effectively as a “team” with his/her fellow official.
Arrives on time; actively participate in the pre-game.
Actively participate in the post-game.
Accepts criticism.
Shares the responsibility and avoids attempts to shift the blame.

JUDGEMENT
Presents a thorough knowledge of the rules of basketball.
Uses unbiased judgment and common sense in applying the rules of the game.
Appears to make his/her decision with consideration to the effect the calling, or equally as important,
the not calling of a rule violation will have.
Is consistent in all calls regardless of situation or point of time in the game. For example, consistency
in the determination of a block vs. a charge.
Reacts quickly enough to make a decision at the moment of its occurrence.
Makes quick and positive decisions, especially with respect to the “close ones”.

GAME MANAGEMENT
Demonstrates control of the game. Leadership, able to run the game
Communicates with coaches, partners and table.
Is courteous and polite
Exhibits a confident manner i.e. attention to detail, alertness, firmness, and timeliness of his/her
reaction to a situation.
Remains consistent when calling violations or fouls without regard to the score, whom it may hurt,
or how it may effect future relations with the coach. Has a quiet influence on the game that relieves
tensions and creates a steady effect upon contestants (both players and coaches alike).
Has control of his/her emotions.
Takes the time to prevent an error from being made
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 05:06pm
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Billy,

I get it and did not need all of that to state what you guys do. But my point is that there is a lot of lip service to what mechanics should look like, but when it comes down to it, they are not going crazy if someone is not "perfect." I have yet to see anyone in years do a player-control foul perfectly.

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Old Tue Mar 27, 2018, 05:17pm
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.. when it comes down to it, they are not going crazy if someone is not "perfect." I have yet to see anyone in years do a player-control foul perfectly.
Agree on your "crazy", "perfect" statement.

Agree on your player control foul signal statement.

Why is it that the player control foul signal is the one that seems to have the most variations? It happened when we were using NFHS mechanics and signals, and it's still happening now that we use IAABO mechanics and signals. It happened when old time veterans were using "seat of the pants" mechanics and signals back when I first started, and it's happening now (after the grizzled veterans have retired, or passed away) with the brand new guys.
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