Indisputable nonsense

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by thedewed

... if a rebounder gets a rebound, and somebody bumps him on the way down, but he comes down cleanly and it doesn't detract from anything he would immediately do, don't blow the whistle.

In my high school game, I call that incidental contact, and I get really pissed at myself when I occasionally sound an impatient whistle on the play.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In my high school game, I call that incidental contact, ...

Most competent officials HS varsity and above do the same thing.

It's nonsense that most NCAA officials call that a foul.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Most competent officials HS varsity and above do the same thing.

It's nonsense that most NCAA officials call that a foul.

Because they have to. They can't pass on contact, then it goes OOB and go back and award a foul. So if there is any doubt that possession won't be maintained (FOUL). Especially with the OOB video review. Nothing worse than seeing the contact, that was passed, and therefore the ball goes OOB. When before we would just give it to the team that "deserved" it due to the pass, now that can't be done.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by deecee

When before we would just give it to the team that "deserved" it due to the pass, now that can't be done.

And people appreciated it when we did that! I can remember several times when a player was probably fouled, but I let it go and then it went out of bounds. I gave it to the team that had been "fouled". The defensive coach immediately says, "that went off them!" And I could say, "it was either that or I have to give them one-and-one". And the coach would invariably say, "ok, thanks".

Even at the D3 level, we don't get that luxury anymore because every team records ever game, and the tape goes to an assignor.

[Rich]

I don't own this forum, but I care about it a lot.

What annoys me are the people who only show up this time of the year to bitch about the officials. Those of us who come here almost every day know exactly who they are.

[LRZ]

"What annoys me are the people who only show up this time of the year to bitch about the officials. Those of us who come here almost every day know exactly who they are."

I was just thinking the same thing.

I don't care that, in my opinion, a ref missed a call or did something I thought questionable; what I do care about is why or how that might have happened. That is, what can I learn from the discussion?

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't own this forum, but I care about it a lot.

What annoys me are the people who only show up this time of the year to bitch about the officials. Those of us who come here almost every day know exactly who they are.

As the old adage goes: Easier to tear something down then to build it!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

And people appreciated it when we did that! I can remember several times when a player was probably fouled, but I let it go and then it went out of bounds. I gave it to the team that had been "fouled". ... we don't get that luxury anymore because every team records ever game ...

Ah, the good old days. With a wink, and a nod, we used to do this all the time.

Now, on the high school level, when every grandmother has a smart phone to record the game, this is a tool that we can no longer use. I haven't done this in many years.

It was so easy back then. Before, easy decision, out of bounds, ball to the team that was "fouled", everybody's happy. Now, was the contact incidental, or a foul? Incidental, the last team to touch the ball doesn't get the throwin. Now I've got coaches yapping at me for either the foul/no foul call, and/or, the out of bounds call.

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We'd live the life we choose
We'd fight and never lose
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