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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:28pm
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Guys, let's not act like the racial composition of the crew isn't a consideration. Based on the "trend" Matt S. referenced earlier it absolutely is. It isn't wrong of me to point that out.
I believe it is a factor. It is at the high school level. But what cracks me up is that somehow the Black officials have to justify their position and never the white officials, who again are not representative of the players that are mostly on the floor.

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:05pm
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John Higgins has worked the past 5 Final Fours. That streak will likely end this year.

Here's the 10 I predict:

Michael Stephens
Mike Eades
Tony Padilla
Jeff Anderson
Doug Sirmons
Verne Harris
Ron Groover
Terry Oglesby
Jeff Clark
Roger Ayers

On the bubble:
Terry Wymer
Keith Kimble
Mike Roberts
Bo Boroski
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:10pm
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Well, I am going throw this out there early....

Final Four Guesses:

Mike Eades (Semi)
Terry Ogelsby (Semi)
Jeff Anderson (Championship)
Doug Sirmons (Championship)
Keith Kimble (Semi)
Mike Stephens (Semi)
Verne Harris (Semi)
Randy McCall (Championship)
Bert Smith (stand by)
Lamont Simpson (Semi)

But also in the mix, Ayers, Clougherty, Gaffney
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Old Mon Apr 02, 2018, 09:37pm
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I believe it is a factor. It is at the high school level. But what cracks me up is that somehow the Black officials have to justify their position and never the white officials, who again are not representative of the players that are mostly on the floor.

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I have sent all Black officials to games where they might have been the only ones in the building. I've sent 3 women to work a boys HS game. Then I had 3 men work the girls game that followed.

I simply don't care. Nobody I work for (administrators of the 24 schools) or that coaches in my conference would ever say anything. They have more important things to worry about.

My criteria is this -- can you get plays right and can you deal with people?

I'm never going to get rid of people cause they are too white, too black, female, run funny, too short, too tall, too heavy, too thin.....provided they get their plays right. And I don't make specific assignments on those criteria, either.

I've only assigned 5 seasons now, though, maybe 1700 games. I might change my mind, but probably won't.
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I have sent all Black officials to games where they might have been the only ones in the building. I've sent 3 women to work a boys HS game. Then I had 3 men work the girls game that followed.

I simply don't care. Nobody I work for (administrators of the 24 schools) or that coaches in my conference would ever say anything. They have more important things to worry about.

My criteria is this -- can you get plays right and can you deal with people?

I'm never going to get rid of people cause they are too white, too black, female, run funny, too short, too tall, too heavy, too thin.....provided they get their plays right. And I don't make specific assignments on those criteria, either.

I've only assigned 5 seasons now, though, maybe 1700 games. I might change my mind, but probably won't.
I'm going to take a guess that Wisconsin is a little different demographically than Illinois. Heck even certain parts of Indiana are very diverse.

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Old Mon Apr 02, 2018, 11:23pm
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I'm going to take a guess that Wisconsin is a little different demographically than Illinois. Heck even certain parts of Indiana are very diverse.



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Depends on the area.

Having experienced this kind of race-based assigning once (an assigner in Illinois back when we did 2 dates a year there insisted we have a black wing to work with the "black team") I think this nonsense is overblown. That guy caused more trouble than anyone on the crew, mainly cause he was a terrible official.


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