Screening

[RefAHallic]

By rule, the screener may turn or brace for contact, but I'm not sure the screener braces here (even after watching slo mo). IMHO, the screener delivered a blow by turning his shoulder into the defender. So, Illegal screen

[UNIgiantslayers]

Hard to tell from this angle, but it also looks like the screener's legs might be set pretty wide as well. Food for thought.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Hard to tell from this angle, but it also looks like the screener's legs might be set pretty wide as well. Food for thought.

Why would that matter if the contact is not with the legs? If the contact is with the torso, I would not care if the legs are wide. The legs only come into play if there is some leg contact. But you got through a player's chest and you were legal otherwise, not sure we should consider that part of the stance.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

not sure we should consider that part of the stance.

I am sure. We shouldn't.

[UNIgiantslayers]

I had about 30 seconds to watch between classes and didn’t get a great look. From my one look, I thought maybe there was contact by screeners knee. Upon second viewing, that was incorrect. My apologies for inconveniencing Jenkins with my idiotic quick take.

[deecee]

there is no rule that says contact with an offensive players shoulder is a foul on the offensive player. all he did was turn to avoid the contact (which was pretty hard IMO). There is no expectation that he stand there and take it like a "man" (or woman).

[bucky]

On bit of a side note....

Generally speaking, there has to be contact for there to be a foul. Given that concept, I think there should be reform that penalizes illegal things that don't have contact, but affect the defense. This is close to being a good example. If someone sets a screen with their feet wider than deemed by the rules, they should be penalized, specifically if it affects the defense. If there is contact, the call is easy. Now, if the defense runs, because of the wide stance, in an adverse pattern to avoid contact, I think the screener should be penalized. I'm thinking violation. Without contact, we have excessive elbow swinging being a violation. Why not a new one for an illegal screen without contact.

Stupid? Genius? Other acts that might be treated similarly?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by deecee

there is no rule that says contact with an offensive players shoulder is a foul on the offensive player. all he did was turn to avoid the contact (which was pretty hard IMO). There is no expectation that he stand there and take it like a "man" (or woman).

You don't avoid contact by turning into the object that is coming at you.

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