Texas Tech vs Texas last shot

[JRutledge]

Are we talking about the video with the last foul with like 3.4 seconds?

Is this the play?



Peace

[UNIgiantslayers]

Yikes. Defender wasn't vertical but that's because either a. the ball handler moved him and the stationary inertia of his arms caused them to stay where they were while his body moved, or b. he got hit in the stomach and that caused him to fold. Maybe some combination of the two. Either way, I'm passing on that one.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Yikes. Defender wasn't vertical but that's because either a. the ball handler moved him and the stationary inertia of his arms caused them to stay where they were while his body moved, or b. he got hit in the stomach and that caused him to fold. Maybe some combination of the two. Either way, I'm passing on that one.

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I was instructed years ago, anytime you go into the chest of a defender as the ball handler and you should not penalize the defender if he is "bowed" by the contact. To me, this would have been a better no call. I can see why it was called, but I would try to not call this foul if I can.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are we talking about the video with the last foul with like 3.4 seconds?

Is this the play?

The video you (JRut) posted is NOT the same video as linked by the OP. In the OP's video, someone drove from the top of the key, made contact on a defender with the off arm , stepped back, and made a basket.

The question is whether that was a foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The video you (JRut) posted is NOT the same video as linked by the OP. In the OP's video, someone drove from the top of the key, made contact on a defender with the off arm , stepped back, and made a basket.

The question is whether that was a foul.

Do you know the time in the game at all? The game went into overtime, was it during the overtime?

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Do you know the time in the game at all? The game went into overtime, was it during the overtime?

Peace

I think it was a game winner -- so within the last 5 seconds or so of whatever the last period was.

[Multiple Sports]

Bob is correct.....it is a jumper at the elbow / foul line. Some people on other sites have compared it to MJ pushing offByron Russell in the NBA Finals...still have no foul...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think it was a game winner -- so within the last 5 seconds or so of whatever the last period was.

Here is the play. Discuss away!!!



Peace

[JRutledge]

Bump, but I found the play in question.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

Not much contact but it did gain him the space he needed to get the shot off.

[Camron Rust]

I don't believe B's collapsing arms were due to contact from A.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The video you (JRut) posted is NOT the same video as linked by the OP. In the OP's video, someone drove from the top of the key, made contact on a defender with the off arm , stepped back, and made a basket.

The question is whether that was a foul.

Buuuut, your video is an excellent play discussion.

FWIW, though, I was taught the same as you with respect to B1 losing verticality with his arms because the initial contact from A1 caused the "bow".

In this video, I'm not so sure B1's arms were ever in his vertical cylinder to begin with.

Thoughts?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are we talking about the video with the last foul with like 3.4 seconds?

Is this the play?



Peace

That is not a foul, just based on the contact, IMO. The contact is on top of the ball.