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Old Sun Jan 07, 2018, 09:25pm
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Arkansas @ Auburn plays (Video)

Play #1:


Play #2:



A few more plays to come from this game.

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Old Sun Jan 07, 2018, 11:49pm
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Both plays...LGP obtained, in time. Charge.
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2018, 11:56pm
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I what makes play one difficult is that the defenders arms are not straight up and has them over the offensive play at almost a 45º angle. I think I would go block or no call after it went in.

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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 01:08am
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Play #3:



Play #4:


Play #5:


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3. Great call. He clear went out on his own using two screens in the process to shake the defender.

4. He does travel after finally securing the ball. I be curious to see that play from the other side. I think the C's view got obscured just as the defender stuck his hand in there. I'd be curious to see if there was a missed foul on the left arm causing him to lose the ball.

5. Foul on white for not being a legal necklace....long before red grabbed his leg.

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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 08:54am
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1. Great call. He clear went out on his own using two screens in the process to shake the defender.

2. He does travel after finally securing the ball. I be curious to see that play from the other side. I think the C's view got obscured just as the defender stuck his hand in there. I'd be curious to see if there was a missed foul on the left arm causing him to lose the ball.

3. Foul on white for not being a legal necklace....long before red grabbed his leg.
Agreed -- well, except maybe for the "legal necklace" part.
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Video #1: I can see why the Lead called a Block

Video #4: travels after re-establishing possession

Video #5: foul on White first
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Play 3: player going oob of his own volition...is that the correct signal? The delayed violation fist?
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Play 3: player going oob of his own volition...is that the correct signal? The delayed violation fist?
I was wondering about that too. I don't think I've seen anything that suggest indicating a delayed violation for that situation.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 03:14pm
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I was wondering about that too. I don't think I've seen anything that suggest indicating a delayed violation for that situation.
Yep, it is the correct signal.
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I was wondering about that too. I don't think I've seen anything that suggest indicating a delayed violation for that situation.
Scirotto blows his whistle for an unusual call - Chicago Tribune

here's another example of that call and mechanic
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Old Tue Jan 09, 2018, 10:22am
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#1 and #2 are easy Charge calls IMO.
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Old Tue Jan 09, 2018, 11:29am
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I what makes play one difficult is that the defenders arms are not straight up and has them over the offensive play at almost a 45º angle. I think I would go block or no call after it went in.
The problem I have with this is his arms not being vertical didn't really have anything to do with this call. There was no/minimal contact with his illegal arms, but the offensive player definitely drives his shoulder into the chest of an otherwise legal defender. I think you go PC on this and not think twice.

Play 2 is a good PC.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:07pm
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Yep, it is the correct signal.
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Scirotto blows his whistle for an unusual call - Chicago Tribune

here's another example of that call and mechanic
Just to clarify, this is an NCAA thing and not an NFHS thing, correct?

In NFHS, while I do tend to have a patient whistle to see if going marginally OOB for an unauthorized reason results in a distinct advantage, by rule and by manual I think it's supposed to be an immediate violation. I don't believes there's support in NFHS for waiting as long as we're seeing in these videos. Thoughts?
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:32pm
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Just to clarify, this is an NCAA thing and not an NFHS thing, correct?

In NFHS, while I do tend to have a patient whistle to see if going marginally OOB for an unauthorized reason results in a distinct advantage, by rule and by manual I think it's supposed to be an immediate violation. I don't believes there's support in NFHS for waiting as long as we're seeing in these videos. Thoughts?
NFHS: Immediate violation.

NCAAW: Violation if the first (meaning "next") to touch the ball after returning. No signal as we saw in the NCAAM video.
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