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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 01:42pm
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Play 3: player going oob of his own volition...is that the correct signal? The delayed violation fist?
I was wondering about that too. I don't think I've seen anything that suggest indicating a delayed violation for that situation.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 03:14pm
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I was wondering about that too. I don't think I've seen anything that suggest indicating a delayed violation for that situation.
Yep, it is the correct signal.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 04:02pm
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I was wondering about that too. I don't think I've seen anything that suggest indicating a delayed violation for that situation.
Scirotto blows his whistle for an unusual call - Chicago Tribune

here's another example of that call and mechanic
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Old Tue Jan 09, 2018, 10:22am
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#1 and #2 are easy Charge calls IMO.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:07pm
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Yep, it is the correct signal.
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Scirotto blows his whistle for an unusual call - Chicago Tribune

here's another example of that call and mechanic
Just to clarify, this is an NCAA thing and not an NFHS thing, correct?

In NFHS, while I do tend to have a patient whistle to see if going marginally OOB for an unauthorized reason results in a distinct advantage, by rule and by manual I think it's supposed to be an immediate violation. I don't believes there's support in NFHS for waiting as long as we're seeing in these videos. Thoughts?
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:32pm
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Just to clarify, this is an NCAA thing and not an NFHS thing, correct?

In NFHS, while I do tend to have a patient whistle to see if going marginally OOB for an unauthorized reason results in a distinct advantage, by rule and by manual I think it's supposed to be an immediate violation. I don't believes there's support in NFHS for waiting as long as we're seeing in these videos. Thoughts?
NFHS: Immediate violation.

NCAAW: Violation if the first (meaning "next") to touch the ball after returning. No signal as we saw in the NCAAM video.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:47pm
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I wonder what the C was thinking/doing on play 5 -- Lead had to come all the way across the lane to get that obvious foul, while the C just casually stands there as if he sees the whole play but somehow rules that legal.

Anyway, that's what I'd want to know from my partner if I was the L on this play. Am I missing something here with college areas of coverage or something?
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:44am
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I what makes play one difficult is that the defenders arms are not straight up and has them over the offensive play at almost a 45º angle. I think I would go block or no call after it went in.
What does the verticality of his arms have to do whether its a block/charge?

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I wonder what the C was thinking/doing on play 5 -- Lead had to come all the way across the lane to get that obvious foul, while the C just casually stands there as if he sees the whole play but somehow rules that legal.

Anyway, that's what I'd want to know from my partner if I was the L on this play. Am I missing something here with college areas of coverage or something?
In real time it may have been difficult to see white's illegal contact since he seemed to also get to the ball so quickly.

The L had the only look at the foul that was ultimately called, at least what I think was called, for red grabbing the leg.
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:01am
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What does the verticality of his arms have to do whether its a block/charge?
If the defender has his arms directly over the offensive player and the player jumps up this is illegal contact that occurs before the torso contact for a block/charge.
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2018, 11:48am
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The L had the only look at the foul that was ultimately called, at least what I think was called, for red grabbing the leg.
I guess I thought the call was on White for the bear-hug around the neck. I thought that was an easy call for the C to get. You may be right about the leg grab at the end.
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Scirotto blows his whistle for an unusual call - Chicago Tribune

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What a useless spam-laden website. Furthermore, the link is broken.
Link works just fine for me also no spam
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