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Old Sat Jan 06, 2018, 11:36am
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Home team wearing red

Tournament game traveling team is home. Coach knew they were the home team...they come out wearing red jerseys. Did not bring white ones...neither did the other traveling team (visitors). High school game. We start the game with a 2 shot technical and ball at half court. Was this correct?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2018, 12:01pm
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Correct by rule. And, the "home" team coach has to sit (the T is direct to him).

Now, some areas set aside this rule for holiday tournaments.
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2018, 03:38pm
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Thanks- that is what we did. We looked for the AD running the tournament-- could not be found--or anyone else in her place. Did not affect the outcome of the game. Clearly explained to both coaches at the 12 min mark before the game started-- no issues
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2018, 04:17pm
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Thanks- that is what we did. We looked for the AD running the tournament-- could not be found--or anyone else in her place. Did not affect the outcome of the game. Clearly explained to both coaches at the 12 min mark before the game started-- no issues
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What did you want the athletic director for?
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2018, 10:48am
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both teams were in the loser's bracket. Perhaps the home team had no knowledge of their home status. Perhaps he had told the team that red was acceptable. Just wanted as much knowledge as possible before we implemented the rule.
Just didn't like starting the game with a T due to a uniform infraction during a holiday tournament.
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2018, 05:14pm
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both teams were in the loser's bracket. Perhaps the home team had no knowledge of their home status. Perhaps he had told the team that red was acceptable. Just wanted as much knowledge as possible before we implemented the rule.
Just didn't like starting the game with a T due to a uniform infraction during a holiday tournament.
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The confusion is that in your original post you stated the home team was aware they were the home team.
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2018, 09:08pm
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Yes sorry for the confusion. Before I went to the coach of the "home" team, I did seek our the school's AD who was in charge of the tournament, to seek information. When that person was not to be found, I went to the team's head coach who stated he was aware that his team was "home" team.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 01:37pm
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both teams were in the loser's bracket. Perhaps the home team had no knowledge of their home status. Perhaps he had told the team that red was acceptable. Just wanted as much knowledge as possible before we implemented the rule.
Just didn't like starting the game with a T due to a uniform infraction during a holiday tournament.
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A couple of things. First, I agree with you about no T during ANY tournament for this. That's just my take. BUT, if you are in any way considering giving one, I don't really see where the AD (or anybody else for that matter) telling them it's okay would change that.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 02:28pm
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How much does anyone really care?

Syracuse at Wake Forest Jan 3. Wake in Black, Syracuse in white.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 03:26pm
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How much does anyone really care?
If an official has an assignor/commissioner or a state governing body who cares, then that official is going to care. Not quite sure I can use the "how much does anyone really care?" response if I get called on the carpet for it.

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Syracuse at Wake Forest Jan 3. Wake in Black, Syracuse in white.
College is not HS. Different rules, different protocols.


And if you think folks don't notice, last season I did the first game of a D3 doubleheader. A major D1 supervisor happened to be in attendance. After my game, he pulled me aside and asked why we let the visiting team wear illegal tights (jerseys were dark grey, tights were dark green).
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 05:45pm
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How much does anyone really care?

Syracuse at Wake Forest Jan 3. Wake in Black, Syracuse in white.
NFHS requires white for the home team. NCAA does not. It’s really that simple. Now, your state may not want you to make an issue of this (mine would rather we just write a report), but you can’t compare high school to college on this.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 06:04pm
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I am pretty sure I read an article about this a few years back where this happened in a state tournament in Wisconsin or maybe it was Iowa. Anyone else remember this?

It just dawned on me while we always brought both sets of uniforms in high school to any tournament.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 06:09pm
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I am pretty sure I read an article about this a few years back where this happened in a state tournament in Wisconsin or maybe it was Iowa. Anyone else remember this?

It just dawned on me while we always brought both sets of uniforms in high school to any tournament.
Two out of town teams in a South Carolina state final a couple years ago took only white uniforms to Columbia. The offending team had to go get black pennies from a sports shop.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 06:13pm
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Two out of town teams in a South Carolina state final a couple years ago took only white uniforms to Columbia. The offending team had to go get black pennies from a sports shop.
Ha Ha!

Did they have numbers on them and/or meet the number restrictions?
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Ha Ha!

Did they have numbers on them and/or meet the number restrictions?
Couldn't tell you. I can tell you that the undershirt rule was ignored.
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