Shot Clock Reset or No Reset

[NCHSAA]

Hey all. I know it has been a while since I last posted, but I have continued monitoring and reading the threads. I have a situation that occurred last night and need a little help, in case my way of thinking is crazy.

* White shoots and the ball hits the rim. The shot clock resets to 30. As the ball is coming off the rim, players are going for the rebound and then the ball shoots out of bounds. I blow my whistle and look to the shot clock, which shows 29. The shot clock then resets before I hand the ball to White for the throw in. I look to the Trail official and say "shot clock at 29". He doesn't agree and keeps it at 30 and we play on *

We get to the locker-room at halftime and we discuss the play. My two partners disagree that after a shot hits the rim and we have a reset of the shot clock, the shot clock continues to run. They say you need control, but this is not a free throw and no change in team possession, so why should the shot-clock NOT continue to run after a shot hits the rim?

Am I crazy?

[johnny d]

Yes, you are crazy, and lacking in rules knowledge.

[rockyroad]

A team has 30 seconds to get a shot off. Since neither team had control of the ball (TC ends on the shot attempt) the shot clock should not start until a team gains control of the rebound. So your partners were correct. To force a team to start with less than 30 seconds is a distinct disadvantage...had team A grabbed the rebound and then had it slapped oob by the defender, you might have 29 on the shot clock then.

[NCHSAA]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Yes, you are crazy, and lacking in rules knowledge.

Don't make me feel worse for doing it wrong for so many years....

[Scrapper1]

Section 11. Duties of Shot-Clock Operator
The shot-clock operator shall:

Art. 5. Start the shot clock when:
a An inbounds player legally touches the ball after the throw-in has been
released;
b. A team gains initial control after a jump ball or unsuccessful try for goal;
or
c. There is a change in team control.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

Don't make me feel worse for doing it wrong for so many years....

Team Control ends when a try is released. Once the try hits the rim, the shot clock is reset, but it can't run until Team Control is reestablished.

[ilyazhito]

By rule, control is needed on a rebound of an unsuccessful shot or on a jump ball to start the shot clock. Only on a throw-in does the shot clock start if the ball is touched. Therefore, the shot clock must remain at 30 seconds (since the ball hit the rim), until a team gains control of the ball inbounds. No team did that, so the shot clock remains at 30 seconds, and will only start counting down after the subsequent throw in.

If the officials can determine the last player to touch the ball, shot clock remains at 30 and the opponents receive possession. If not, the shot clock remains at 30 because the ball hit the rim on an unsuccessful shot, and possession is awarded by the alternating possession arrow (unless the officials are in the last 2 minutes of the 2nd half or overtime, where they are allowed to use instant replay for this purpose. In that case, see above, "If officials can determine".), and the shot clock remains at 30 until the subsequent throw-in.

[bob jenkins]

Another effin zombie thread (although only by 6.5 months) -- and again with nothing added.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Another effin zombie thread (although only by 6.5 months) -- and again with nothing added.

And another wordy "look at how much I know" post that added nothing to the thread.

[ilyazhito]

You should give me the Jesus Christ Award for most threads resurrected.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

You should give me the Jesus Christ Award for most threads resurrected.

A better idea would be for you to stop trying to obtain that honor, as requested by one of the mods on the Chris Paul thread you revived.

[Camron Rust]

I really don't get why it is such a big deal that someone replies to an old thread. At least this way, the conversation history is there and you can easily let it die if there is nothing new. Otherwise, we're rehashing all the same stuff again in a new thread. Is that any better?

[LRZ]

Yes, a new thread is better because of the greater likelihood of the information being current and accurate.

[SC Official]

And the OP already had his question answered 6.5 months ago.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Yes, a new thread is better because of the greater likelihood of the information being current and accurate.

Things really don't change that much.