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Old Mon Dec 25, 2017, 09:15pm
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You think that's bad, I had a home team show up in gray jerseys (in holiday tournament game). How long has white been required now?
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Old Wed Dec 27, 2017, 10:51am
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If it were a technical foul for uniform violations, uniform violations would go away.
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Old Wed Dec 27, 2017, 07:15pm
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If it were a technical foul for uniform violations, uniform violations would go away.
Probably not. You'd have to actually get people to call them. It is hard enough to get people to deal with them now.
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Old Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:27pm
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probably not. You'd have to actually get people to call them. It is hard enough to get people to deal with them now.
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Old Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:42pm
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You think that's bad, I had a home team show up in gray jerseys (in holiday tournament game). How long has white been required now?
I’ve had a couple teams whose road color is light gray. On one occasion (in a subvarsity game) the home team asked if they could change to their black jerseys at halftime because the coach said it was too confusing (we allowed it).

There’s one girls team in my neck of the woods whose home jerseys are yellow for some reason, and they have a waiver from the state office in their scorebook. As long as the two colors are contrasting, whether the home team is wearing white or not, I’m not giving a T to the head coach.
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Old Thu Dec 28, 2017, 01:21pm
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Probably not. You'd have to actually get people to call them. It is hard enough to get people to deal with them now.
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whether the home team is wearing white or not, I’m not giving a T to the head coach.
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Old Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:38am
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I refereed Danville several times last year and only 1 time did we have to tell that same player to take off his undershirt. He obliged and didnt have any issues.

I think some players know who they can and cant get away with things and always push the limits.
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Old Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:40am
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I refereed Danville several times last year and only 1 time did we have to tell that same player to take off his undershirt. He obliged and didnt have any issues.

I think some players know who they can and cant get away with things and always push the limits.
I have had Danville in the playoffs a couple years back and this was not an issue and I do not recall this player having this issue. If it was, it was certainly corrected as my partners were State Final Officials as well.

I think I was at this event but did not work this particular game. I simply do not remember for sure, but it appears this is Orr High School in Chicago (who that documentary was about on Fox) and done by officials that might not be as stringent about these things in general. If that is the case, I am not surprised this took place or might not have been corrected. But that is speculation at this time.

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Old Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:10pm
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Generally speaking, the later in the season it is, the more I care.
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Old Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:19pm
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Generally speaking, the later in the season it is, the more I care.


In my association, we actually make an effort to address it EARLY in the season. We have found that by doing so, we don’t seem to have to deal with it later in the year, except for with visiting teams to our area.


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Old Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:42pm
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In my association, we actually make an effort to address it EARLY in the season. We have found that by doing so, we don’t seem to have to deal with it later in the year, except for with visiting teams to our area.
Exactly. I will warn/educate players/coaches in pre-season scrimmages and maybe for the first couple of regular season games. But if I see something late in the season, no chance.
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Old Thu Aug 23, 2018, 06:06am
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I will warn/educate players/coaches in pre-season scrimmages ...
In scrimmages, I will warn/educate, but will not enforce. Working such scrimmages reminds me of the basis for some fashion rules. When there is a cluster of players battling for a rebound, it helps if they're all wearing the proper color undershirts. It makes it just a little bit easier to identify players if their undershirt matches their jersey, not a lot easier, just a little easier, nevertheless, easier.
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2018, 08:01am
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Generally speaking, the later in the season it is, the more I care.
If it is February, I assume (normally correctly) that my peers were not handling business in November. That being said, I always enforce fashion police rules, more strictly in the early season.

However, if a team has been wearing gold uniforms at home the entire season, I am not going to be the first to give a direct T to the head coach. Most likely the team has an exemption from the state anyway (there is one girls team in my area like this).
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2018, 10:19am
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If it is February, I assume (normally correctly) that my peers were not handling business in November. That being said, I always enforce fashion police rules, more strictly in the early season.



However, if a team has been wearing gold uniforms at home the entire season, I am not going to be the first to give a direct T to the head coach. Most likely the team has an exemption from the state anyway (there is one girls team in my area like this).

There is a team from a small village in Alaska that wears a fluorescent yellow color jersey for their home uniforms. I’m not sure how the regular season went last year as far as administering technical fouls to start the game, but at the state tournament, officials were instructed to enforce it by the book. 3 of their 4 games began with the other team receiving 2 shots and the ball. Their season ended with them being crowned State Champions - wearing their illegal uniforms.


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Old Tue Aug 21, 2018, 10:38am
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Apply to the ASAA for a waiver, and then there would be no issue about technical fouls, if the waiver is approved. If the fluorescent yellow is the only uniforms that the team has, it's reasonable for them to play in those.

I had a private school freshman girls game where the visitors came in gray uniforms (the home team wore white), and I asked the coach if they would change to blue, to avoid confusion. The home coach agreed, and we played grey vs blue.
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