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Old Thu Dec 07, 2017, 10:59pm
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Minnesota High School Basketball (Video)

Play #1:


Play #2:


Play #3:


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Old Thu Dec 07, 2017, 11:10pm
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Play 1: CNC, 3 points

Play 2: Charge

Play 3: ugly, probably a travel
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Old Thu Dec 07, 2017, 11:10pm
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1) Not backcourt
2) Easy PC
3) Travel - lifted pivot foot before ball release from hand to start dribble

Thanks for posting the videos, Rut! I might not comment much, but I watch and learn from all of them.
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Old Thu Dec 07, 2017, 11:16pm
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Post like this are why I love reading the basketball side of this forum. If only we had these sort of example clips in the softball world.

As a non BB official (other than emergency person-with-a-pulse coverage on sub-HS games):
#1 - I don't know the rule enough to say. I want to say no backcourt violation.
#2 - In real-time, I like the block call as the defender was moving forward an instant before contact. That said, in slow-mo, I think he gets LGP before the contact, but I could be wrong. Charge/PC.
#3 - Again, I don't know the rule well enough to know, but the release of the ball looks like the start of a dribble. I don't see a travel before the release. I can't see the feet well enough to judge. EDIT: on a few more watchings, I see the pivot foot step now...in slow-mo I think this is a good call.
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Old Thu Dec 07, 2017, 11:54pm
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Teebob -

Welcome to our hoops page and glad to have you aboard but do you find it neccessary to post your schedule from last year??? With all due respect, I doubt anybody cares.
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Old Fri Dec 08, 2017, 12:11am
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Teebob -

Welcome to our hoops page and glad to have you aboard but do you find it neccessary to post your schedule from last year??? With all due respect, I doubt anybody cares.
Well you cared enough about it to make a post
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Old Fri Dec 08, 2017, 08:25am
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Teebob -

Welcome to our hoops page and glad to have you aboard but do you find it neccessary to post your schedule from last year??? With all due respect, I doubt anybody cares.
His sig is just as relevant as yours.

On the videos:

1) Not BC -- we didn't have all "three points" in the FC (during the relevant part of the play)

2) PC

3) Easy travel. The pivot foot was lifted before the ball was released on the dribble.
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Old Fri Dec 08, 2017, 08:47am
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1. No BC
2. PC (I'm curious if he thought the defender got there late, or...?)
3. Travel (looks to me like the right foot is pivot and he lifts that before the dribble).
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Old Fri Dec 08, 2017, 09:56am
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Re #2: calls like this are why players recklessly drive to the basket . . .
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Old Fri Dec 08, 2017, 02:41pm
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Teebob -

Welcome to our hoops page and glad to have you aboard but do you find it neccessary to post your schedule from last year??? With all due respect, I doubt anybody cares.
I don't want to derail the thread with an extended reply, but keeping my sig updated with my game info does two things for me: 1) gets me coming back to the forum after each scheduled date to update it/ask questions about anything weird & 2) provides a free online place to keep track of what I've worked. Maybe it's not the best place, but it works for me and provides context to other officials when I ask a question about a particular ruleset so they are aware how much or how little exposure I have had in that ruleset.

Back to basketball, I'm glad to see I was close to the right answers on these. Maybe for the wrong reasons, but still close to the answers given by others on this board.
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Old Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:01pm
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This is more of a generic comment about this particular game. I recorded it and have watched most of the 1st half. Early in the game, I thought the game was overly physical and it did not seem like many calls were made for contact, hand checks, etc. It seemed a little better as the game went on. For those of you that watched the game or at least the first half, what was your general assessment? I could go back and find a few plays if need be, but just wanted to get some thoughts going.
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Old Fri Dec 08, 2017, 11:56am
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1: correct NC on the backcourt violation. He didn't have 3 points past.
2: PC all day long. These types of block calls only encourage the offense plowing in there and creating dangerous plays. What would you have the defender do? Just get out of the way? If THAT was illegal defense then there is no way to defend that play other than to just get out of the way. Sorry, I just really dislike this call.
3: Great get. These things happen quickly and sometimes a play like that happens and is hard to process, but he definitely picked up the pivot foot (both feet really) before releasing the dribble.
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