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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:43am
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I will take requests again. I will need the game, time and the type of play.

So this play I would need something like this

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Rhode Island @ Nevada: 4:07 in the first half, block-charge call.
Here is the first play of the year.



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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:52am
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:42am
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Block...moving forward and to the side into the path after shooter jumped. Easy to get wrong if you only look at the feet but the body is what defines the actual position.

EDIT: This is pretty much play 10 (a block) in the NCAA block/charge video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxOAMMB6Sjg
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:14am
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Sure looks like a charge to me. Both feet were down and set before the shooter left his feet. Took it in the chest.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:34am
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Sure looks like a charge to me. Both feet were down and set before the shooter left his feet. Took it in the chest.
I agree. I am giving the defender the benefit of the doubt in these plays.

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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:05am
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Agree with the PC here, but can we talk about the L's mechanic on this? That movement could easily be confused with 'count the bucket' in my view. Is the behind the head PC signal not required in college?
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:24am
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Agree with the PC here, but can we talk about the L's mechanic on this? That movement could easily be confused with 'count the bucket' in my view. Is the behind the head PC signal not required in college?
We are supposed to go fist, then hand behind the head. On plays to the baskets I try to remember to go hand/head for that very reason, as not to confuse folks thinking I'm counting the basket.

On non-shooting plays I sometimes go with just the direction. But I'm working on always going hand behind the head.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:32am
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:47am
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Sure looks like a charge to me. Both feet were down and set before the shooter left his feet. Took it in the chest.
I would recommend getting this out of your vocabulary.

That being said, I agree that this is a PC, and quite frankly I don't think it's that close. What does the defender do wrong?

And on PC fouls I go fist up then point (not punch) the other way. Hand behind the head at the spot looks weak and goofy–I save that for my report to the table.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:51am
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I would recommend getting this out of your vocabulary.

That being said, I agree that this is a PC, and quite frankly I don't think it's that close. What does the defender do wrong?

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This is pretty much play 10 (a block) in the NCAA block/charge video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxOAMMB6Sjg

He continued to slide right after the shooter jumped. Yes, he got the feet down, but then slid them over to get into the path of the airborne shooter.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:25pm
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This is pretty much play 10 (a block) in the NCAA block/charge video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxOAMMB6Sjg

He continued to slide right after the shooter jumped. Yes, he got the feet down, but then slid them over to get into the path of the airborne shooter.
I do not think it is anything like play 10. The defender completely is shifting his body to make contact. The play I posted was a defender with his feet in place and all he does is get ready for contact. And again, I am giving all the benefit to the defender. It does not say they cannot have their body move at all.

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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:48pm
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I do not think it is anything like play 10. The defender completely is shifting his body to make contact. The play I posted was a defender with his feet in place and all he does is get ready for contact. And again, I am giving all the benefit to the defender. It does not say they cannot have their body move at all.

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After further review, I'm going to agree with you. The shooter's foot was not off the floor as soon as I thought. By the time it was off the floor, the defender had already shifted over enough.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:07pm
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I would recommend getting this out of your vocabulary.

That being said, I agree that this is a PC, and quite frankly I don't think it's that close. What does the defender do wrong?

And on PC fouls I go fist up then point (not punch) the other way. Hand behind the head at the spot looks weak and goofy–I save that for my report to the table.
The college supervisor who pays me the most money per game explicitly wants it done that way, so call me Goofy.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:23pm
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The college supervisor who pays me the most money per game explicitly wants it done that way, so call me Goofy.
That's his prerogative. Thankfully, I don't work for anyone that requires that. When/if I ever do, I'll adjust.
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Old Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:45pm
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In real time, I'm going PC on this. Defender's left foot does slide slightly after shooter becomes airborne, but I don't think defender is ever out of his vertical, is he? If he is, it's just barely and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't see that in live action.
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