FIBA or N.Federation

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SC Official

NFHS: Since A1 had begun his shooting motion the ball does not become dead until the try ends. Assuming B2 contacted A1 before the try ended, if you rule a foul it must be a personal foul. In this situation, the fouls by B1 and B2 create a false multiple foul situation where each would carry its own penalty. Realistically, I’m ignoring B2’s foul unless I just can’t ignore it.

An “unsporting foul” in NFHS is a noncontact technical foul, so that would not fit the bill here (I know it’s different in FIBA). And as I noted, any foul you rule on B2 before the try ends must be a personal foul.

Depending on how you read the OP, I don't think the first foul is in the act of shooting....it was on the beginning of the drive, not the shot.

That said, I'll assume I was reading that wrong and the act of shooting had begun at the time of the foul by B1. If so, this is a multiple foul, not a false multiple. Multiple is "approximately" the same time. One penalty. Both players charged, and a total of 2 FTs (one for each foul, assuming it was not a 3 since it was a layup).

If the time between the contacts were not "approximately" the same time, the first was either not in the act of shooting and the ball was dead...making the 2nd a T for dead ball contact. Or, the the ball became dead after the first due to the lack of continuous motion, again making the 2nd a T for dead ball contact.

The right way to handle this, assuming the contacts were indeed very close in time, is to have a patient whistle, only after the 2nd contact, and call that and only that.