2017-18 NFHS Basketball Part I Test

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

Ladies and gentlemen, the ethics police is in the house!!!!!!!!

Comparing an open book referee test to a closed book college test is reaching at best.

Actually, my comparison said nothing about the hypothetical college test being closed book. The professor's reaction would still be the same.

Clearly you have some reading comprehension issues yourself.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Actually, my comparison said nothing about the hypothetical college test being closed book. The professor's reaction would still be the same.

Clearly you have some reading comprehension issues yourself.

No, I read just fine. I guess I just didn't attend a university that allowed me to take a test as open book. Apparently you did, or assume that some colleges allow that.

In the end, taking an open book referee test when you want compared to a college test is nowhere near the same thing. Comparing the two just makes you look like a bigger fool.

Quit trying to force your morals on others and get over yourself. Can't believe how the OP is getting ripped by some of you holier than thou types on this board. I would hope we could help each other along and share information rather than rip each other impose your morals.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

No, I read just fine. I guess I just didn't attend a university that allowed me to take a test as open book. Apparently you did, or assume that some colleges allow that.

I actually did take a couple of tests in college that was open book. Not common, but that is what happened. We were given the test questions before and could review before the actual testing time.

Originally Posted by SC Official

Actually, my comparison said nothing about the hypothetical college test being closed book. The professor's reaction would still be the same.

I think it is a silly comparison to talk about what happens in a college exam where there might be some standards for a professor to a test that might be taken across the country and each professor comes up with their own test and how they administer the test.

Originally Posted by SC Official

I don't think anyone really "cares" that this guy got the test questions ahead of time. I think people "care" about the fact that he tries to act like it's not unethical. If you got the exam questions ahead of time in a college class and your professor found out, I highly doubt he would be okay with it.

If he is not from your state, then why would you or I care what he thinks or what the result of the test does when it has nothing to do with you and me? Testing is done so different from one place to another, getting a test early does not mean you are unethical. It just means you like reviewing the test early. And professors in my experience often had study sessions before a final and often we went over questions that were going to be asked on the test.

Originally Posted by SC Official

Sort of like referees that don't report their income just because they don't get 1099's. Sure, you probably won't get caught. Sure, it doesn't really affect me at all. But, it's still unlawful, and to act like it's "okay" is just ridiculous.

I think that is a bad comparison. People are owed deductions they do not report or do not give other information properly because they did not know they were supposed to. That is why you go to a professional for that help and even then things are done improperly. I do not see the IRS going after everyone that does not report certain things of their income either.

Peace

[DrPete]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I actually did take a couple of tests in college that was open book. Not common, but that is what happened. We were given the test questions before and could review before the actual testing time.

I took a calculus exam in college that was open book, and not only that, but we had a week to complete it. It happens.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by DrPete

I took a calculus exam in college that was open book, and not only that, but we had a week to complete it. It happens.

I did too...and the best score was still just over 60%, even though it was open book. I still have nightmares about that one!

[BigT]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I don't think anyone really "cares" that this guy got the test questions ahead of time. I think people "care" about the fact that he tries to act like it's not unethical. If you got the exam questions ahead of time in a college class and your professor found out, I highly doubt he would be okay with it.

Sort of like referees that don't report their income just because they don't get 1099's. Sure, you probably won't get caught. Sure, it doesn't really affect me at all. But, it's still unlawful, and to act like it's "okay" is just ridiculous.

You are so funny man.


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verb

gerund or present participle: cheating



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act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.
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He gained no advantage. He didnt even get brownie points for turning in the test faster than others. Our state normally opens this up in Mid Oct. Dunno why they opened it closed it and said we must wait until Nov 1 to see a national test that was out there. I like Jess was excited to work on it. How was an advantage gained? No one cares what score we get.

In fact we had a situation last year where the test 2 came out and had a question about a technical free throw after the horn in a tied game. The big time referees who just took the test and cheated by copying the answers got the ruling wrong in the game and they didnt have OT. That is pure cheating. He said he got the questions so he could study an open book test...

Bud you are something else. Glad Jess is ignoring you. Glad you are ignoring the dictionary definition of the word and what it means. Thanks for others who have come to Jess defense. No reason. Clearly someone is looking for drama when there is so many better things to discuss.