2017-18 NFHS Basketball Part I Test

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

Within a few days of posting the request for a copy of the test I got a PDF of it, Worked through the test for a couple of days, then on the morning it was opened to me on the Arbiter, November 1st I took the test, submitted it at 8:36 AM and found I got a 99%. Now for the next two months, I have to wait to find out which one I missed. It will drive me nuts, well at least make me wonder.

There are lots of stupid questions, but I think the point of the test is to get our noses in the book. In my state, Utah you can officiate getting an 80% and it is open book, also an open book on part 2.

If some think I was promoting cheating, I am sorry. I simply wanted to get a head start, had a free weekend to work on it.

Peace, HavaGr8day

Having more time for an exam, or "a head start" as you call it, is a form of cheating. Why not just take it during the time that your state provides? That would be the honorable way.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Having more time for an exam, or "a head start" as you call it, is a form of cheating. Why not just take it during the time that your state provides? That would be the honorable way.

So if a state gives you 3 months to take the test and you got the test a week earlier, you have cheated? Really????

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So if a state gives you 3 months to take the test and you got the test a week earlier, you have cheated? Really????

And if you submit the exam just two days later, have you completed it on-time?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

And if you submit the exam just two days later, have you completed it on-time?

I guess that would depend on where you live now wouldn't it?

I know in my state as an example we get all the test questions to review and can only submit the test online. There were times that we got what those questions were if you knew the right person. You still had to go through the test and figure out the answers. I do not see why timing matters unless we are talking about a test you have to take on-site on a specific set of days. But again, if a test is open book and has a large window, I do not see how seeing the test makes much difference.

Peace

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I guess that would depend on where you live now wouldn't it?

I know in my state as an example we get all the test questions to review and can only submit the test online. There were times that we got what those questions were if you knew the right person. You still had to go through the test and figure out the answers. I do not see why timing matters unless we are talking about a test you have to take on-site on a specific set of days. But again, if a test is open book and has a large window, I do not see how seeing the test makes much difference.

Peace

Your state sounds just like mine and I agree with you 100%.

[agr8zebra]

Cheating in my book is when I get the answers from some other means than studying them out for myself. Cheating is getting the answers is from someone other than myself. I feel CLEAR in my conscious that I did not cheat getting my 99%

Cheating would be one of you asking for my test answers.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

Cheating in my book is when I get the answers from some other means than studying them out for myself. Cheating is getting the answers is from someone other than myself. I feel CLEAR in my conscious that I did not cheat getting my 99%

Cheating would be one of you asking for my test answers.

If you can justify it that way, good for you.

In most domains, it is considered cheating to get a copy of an exam before the exam is released so that you can study the answers ahead of time.

If it was of no advantage, why not just wait until it was released? If it was an advantage, that would confirm it was cheating.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

Cheating in my book is when I get the answers from some other means than studying them out for myself. Cheating is getting the answers is from someone other than myself. I feel CLEAR in my conscious that I did not cheat getting my 99%

Cheating would be one of you asking for my test answers.

Agreed!!!

Starting and/or finishing your task (test) on your own ahead of schedule is not cheating. Don't let some of the self important people on this site make you think otherwise.

[SC Official]

I don't think anyone really "cares" that this guy got the test questions ahead of time. I think people "care" about the fact that he tries to act like it's not unethical. If you got the exam questions ahead of time in a college class and your professor found out, I highly doubt he would be okay with it.

Sort of like referees that don't report their income just because they don't get 1099's. Sure, you probably won't get caught. Sure, it doesn't really affect me at all. But, it's still unlawful, and to act like it's "okay" is just ridiculous.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Having more time for an exam, or "a head start" as you call it, is a form of cheating. Why not just take it during the time that your state provides? That would be the honorable way.

Really? Cheating? Some of you people need to chill out.

What's the difference if he worked on it October 30 & 31 when he had time and took the test on November 1 as opposed to working on it November 1 & 2 then taking it on November 3?

It's the same damn thing. He had a free weekend and wanted to get it out of the way. Maybe he has 3 kids and another job and other things that take up his time. He had some free time and wanted to get the test done.

No big deal at all!!!!!!!!!