Wrong Team Throw-in

[ZonaZebra]

First, let me apologize up front if this clip has already been discussed as I have been inactive this summer. I tried a search and found nothing, so assume that it hasn't. Came across this play and am curious as how people would rule. It has generated quite the discussion in my neck of the woods. The clip is here: [URL="https://youtu.be/9xvhuHdtlxQ"]

[deecee]

Well the throw in happened that shouldn't, the backcourt happened that shouldnt, and the points scored that shouldn't. 2 points for the white team and red team gets the ball OOB with the right to run the baseline.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by ZonaZebra

First, let me apologize up front if this clip has already been discussed as I have been inactive this summer. I tried a search and found nothing, so assume that it hasn't. Came across this play and am curious as how people would rule. It has generated quite the discussion in my neck of the woods. The clip is here: [URL="https://youtu.be/9xvhuHdtlxQ"]

Once the throw-in to the wrong team has ended, you just have to eat the mistake. However, Red then proceeded to go the wrong way and committed a backcourt violation that wasn't called before the ball next became dead. So now the crew has to eat that one, too. Finally, a live ball (not a try) enters White's basket, and then play is stopped. Once the dust settles, score two points for White, and Red gets a non-designated spot throw-in along the end line.

Some might say you should go back and enforce the Backcourt Violation after the fact, thereby cancelling the wrong basket basket. I would disagree.


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[LeeBallanfant]

FIBA Rules, you might go to:

16.2.3. If a player deliberately scores a field goal in his team’s basket, it is a violation and the goal does not count.

[BillyMac]

FIBA must not have the following rule: The playing of music/sound effects shall only be permitted during pregame, time-outs, intermission and post-game. The use of artificial noisemakers shall be prohibited.

Thank God I officiate under NFHS rules. It saves me a lot of money buying aspirin.

[bob jenkins]

I didn't watch the clip, but is there a possibility of applying the "when the officials permit the teams to go the wrong way, all points shall count, and the officials sholl resume play with the teams pointed the right direction" rule?

[ZonaZebra]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I didn't watch the clip, but is there a possibility of applying the "when the officials permit the teams to go the wrong way, all points shall count, and the officials sholl resume play with the teams pointed the right direction" rule?

Well, this is exactly what our debate is over. We are split about 50-50 on that point with those arguing against stating that this took place with 3:12 minutes left in the third quarter. They also argue that 4-5-4 ("officials permit the teams...") falls under the heading "Basket,Choice". 4-5-3 of course covers the changing of baskets for the second half and the teams had been going in that direction for 4:48 minutes.

As a aside, can anyone give a short explanation on how I could have made the link clickable? Thanks.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"when the officials permit the teams to go the wrong way, all points shall count, and the officials sholl resume play with the teams pointed the right direction"

Originally Posted by ZonaZebra

4-5-4 falls under the heading "Basket,Choice". 4-5-3 of course covers the changing of baskets for the second half .

Doesn't it also cover jump balls (start of game, extra periods)?

[ZonaZebra]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Doesn't it also cover jump balls (start of game, extra periods)?

Yes, but the actually wording regarding an officials mistake is located in 4-5-4.

[Raymond]

https://youtu.be/9xvhuHdtlxQ

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ZonaZebra

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As a aside, can anyone give a short explanation on how I could have made the link clickable? Thanks.

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