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Old Fri Sep 22, 2017, 12:59pm
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Coaches & Officials Meeting

My Association is planning on holding a preseason coaches & officials forum.

It has been many years since a meeting like this has been held in my area where the coaches and officials are in one room.

Have any of you participated in such a forum?

What topics would you suggest be covered?

Thanks!
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Old Fri Sep 22, 2017, 01:21pm
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Be sure to cover the new rule change for coaches. One technical automatically includes ejection with a two game suspension, 10 free throws plus possession for the other team and a $1000 fine. Make sure you enforce it when the season starts.
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Old Fri Sep 22, 2017, 01:32pm
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We have had coach's roundtables before where coaches come to a meeting and talk about their expectations or things they like to see official do.

I personally see these as a waste of time. Coaches usually complain about the same things over and over and I feel we learn next to nothing. But some feel they are good.

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Old Fri Sep 22, 2017, 02:47pm
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Communication

I've sat in on a couple of these, but agree with Rut.

Coordinators tell us the same thing every year - coaches want us to be able to communicate with them. They want to be 'heard.' Is communication vital? Of course.

But as far as your roundtable goes, I think an overview of POE's, rule changes, and a Q&A with coaches would cover the basics.
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Old Fri Sep 22, 2017, 03:30pm
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If you want an effective and meaningful interaction with the coaches, invite a local college coach (the higher the level, the better) to come speak to entire group.
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Old Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:54pm
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If you want an effective and meaningful interaction with the coaches, invite a local college coach (the higher the level, the better) to come speak to entire group.
Bo Ryan came and talked to our association many years ago. I think it was his first or second year at Wisconsin. My takeaway was that they wanted consistency at both ends of the floor. They adjust to the officiating and wanted to rely on same calls for similar plays. Nothing new or earth shattering but it was cool to get his perspective.
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Old Fri Sep 22, 2017, 03:49pm
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We have had coach's roundtables before where coaches come to a meeting and talk about their expectations or things they like to see official do. I personally see these as a waste of time.
Agree. We had one of these several years ago. One top-notch boys coach and one top-notch girls coach talked about what they expected from officials.

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... coaches want us to be able to communicate with them. They want to be heard ...
They pretty much spent twenty minutes talking about what Matt S. described above. All of us already knew that. What a waste of time.

The two invitees were state champions several times over, who always got along well with almost all officials (most of the great coaches do), seldom showing any unsporting behavior.

I would love to get a few 5W-15L coaches in a room (with the door locked) and have them explain to us, for the hundredth time (but this time with no technical fouls) how bad officials making bad calls cause them to not make the state tournament each season. Now that would be interesting.
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Old Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:33am
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They pretty much spent twenty minutes talking about what Matt S. described above. All of us already knew that. What a waste of time.

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Well, a D3 supervisor just spoke to our preseason rules group for over an hour about the importance of his officials being able to be effective communicators with coaches.

The week before a D1 head coach spoke to us for almost an hour and 90% of it was about official/coach communication.

So apparently, it is not something that is known to all officials, nor is there is a perception that officials as a whole are doing a good job of it.
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Old Fri Sep 22, 2017, 09:44pm
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We have had coach's roundtables before where coaches come to a meeting and talk about their expectations or things they like to see official do.

I personally see these as a waste of time. Coaches usually complain about the same things over and over and I feel we learn next to nothing. But some feel they are good.

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Old Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:17am
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I just do not get why we do not take the time get officials better with information that actually helps them. Taking with coaches is nice, but is repetitive and useless in the long run. It is like us talking about ratings when we no only do not control them, there is not much we can do to change them for the most part.

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Old Wed Oct 11, 2017, 07:50am
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A quick follow up..We had this meeting the other day and the coaches were focused on the new "Conduct/Behavior Warning" and the rules and POE. Not much about complaining

One coach asked a question I would like to get your feedback on:

As officials, what are 3 traits in coaches that you respect?
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