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Old Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:31am
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Why would an official grant a timeout that a team does not have? TF and move on seems pretty obvious, right? Or am I missing something here?
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Old Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:52am
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Why would an official grant a timeout that a team does not have?
With few exceptions (successive timeouts with zeros on the clock) officials always grant timeouts when legally requested (team's player holding, or dribbling, or dead ball), even if the team has already used all their alloted timeouts. Even when, due to a mistake involving the scorekeeper and officials, the coach had not been informed that he had used all his alloted timeouts. That's why there is an excess timeout technical foul the rulebook. Also, since it's "penalized when discovered", a technical foul can be charged several minutes, and several live balls and dead balls, after the excess timeout is granted (possibly due to a corrected scorebook mistake, or a communication problem between the scorekeeper and the officials).

Chris Webber's Infamous Timeout: https://youtu.be/-QPB9NBUG2g
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Old Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:13am
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Why would an official grant a timeout that a team does not have? TF and move on seems pretty obvious, right? Or am I missing something here?
Officials are not scorekeepers. We grant them when they ask (and there is the video that shows they requested a timeout). There is no rules support to not grant a timeout when requested. They should know their situation better than we should.

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Old Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:48pm
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Officials are not scorekeepers. We grant them when they ask (and there is the video that shows they requested a timeout). There is no rules support to not grant a timeout when requested. They should know their situation better than we should.

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Two things here.

First, when a team is out of timeouts, the scorekeeper let's me know and I make the coach aware of it.

Second, I guess I was thinking that when whoever said "grant the timeout when there is none remaining," I guess I thought they meant give them that 30 or 60 seconds that constitute a timeout. I didn't realize they meant stop play, realize they have none, and T immediately. I guess that was my mistake. Apologies.
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Old Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:31pm
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I didn't realize they meant stop play, realize they have none, and T immediately.
They still get their timeout. I'd give him sixty if he requests it because the coach is already pissed at somebody (himself, an assistant, a scorekeeper, or a player) and he'll probably need the full sixty seconds to calm down. Thirty seconds (unless they request it) would be like pouring gasoline on a fire.
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Old Tue Sep 26, 2017, 08:58am
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I guess it's good I happened to open this thread, because I've never noticed when reading that rule that they get the timeout at the expense of a technical foul. I've always been under the impression that they get the T and no timeout. Good thing I haven't had it happen in a game yet.

ART. 6 . . . Time-outs in excess of the allotted number may be requested and shall be granted
during regulation playing time or any extra period at the expense of a technical foul for each, as in
10-1-7.
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