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Old Wed Jul 05, 2017, 11:50pm
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We don't officiate mental advantages. Some people just have thinner skin. Not our problem. Sounds like the kid needs some mental jiujitsu here.

We don't? So do you allow unlimited trash talk? Do you allow any sort of verbal threats because no physical advantage was gained?

I can see it now...A1 at the FT line and B2 walks near him before shooting calling him, loudly, every name in the book, making comments about his religion/ethnicity/gender/sexual orientation and promising to meet him in the parking lot after the game if he makes it. Team A coach inquires and you say "There was no physical advantage gained and A1 needs mental jujitsu." Should go over well.

I know, I know, to extreme. Forgive me.
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Old Thu Jul 06, 2017, 11:39am
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We don't? So do you allow unlimited trash talk? Do you allow any sort of verbal threats because no physical advantage was gained?

I can see it now...A1 at the FT line and B2 walks near him before shooting calling him, loudly, every name in the book, making comments about his religion/ethnicity/gender/sexual orientation and promising to meet him in the parking lot after the game if he makes it. Team A coach inquires and you say "There was no physical advantage gained and A1 needs mental jujitsu." Should go over well.

I know, I know, to extreme. Forgive me.
The flaw in your argument, is that trash talking and yelling during free throws are explicitly called out in the rule book. What the rule book doesn't address is calling a foul because that foul "may" create an issue on the other end of the court.

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Advantage/disadvantage may not be explicated spelled out in the rule book, but on this play is it most definitely in the minds of supervisors and observers. Being an official who blows his whistle on these type of plays will adversely affect the perception observers/supervisors have of that official.
Advantage/disadvantage has almost gone the way of the dinosaur. The current application is to apply the rules as written, and promote freedom of movement.

As more and more contact is specifically called out as infractions the onus goes away from "judgement" and to just call the contact a foul.

This, of course, does apply moreso at the college level, however HS can benefit quite a bit from this too.
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Old Thu Jul 06, 2017, 05:01pm
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Advantage/disadvantage has almost gone the way of the dinosaur. The current application is to apply the rules as written, and promote freedom of movement.
We're not quite there yet, but the asteroid is on it's way.

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Old Thu Jul 06, 2017, 08:37pm
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We're not quite there yet, but the asteroid is on it's way.

farside....top 3 cartoon strips of all time (calvin and hobbes and dilbert are the other 2). Yes I am very well read in these 3 and I knew this panel halfway into it .
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