NFHS 2017-18 Rules Changes

[walt]

As for the last second shot possibilities, I was at an NCAA Women's camp and the discussion there was 4 last second shot opportunities adds excitement to the game, makes the officials stay engaged, promotes game clock and shot clock awareness, etc. To each their own. Being an NCAA women's official, I like it.

Our state interpreter shared this with me. Both he and the NFHS State liaisons wanted to see the one and one eliminated with 2 shots after the 5th in a quarter and a reset of the foul count each quarter. They also wanted the 28' coaches box with a warning for the first violation of the boundary, 28' mark or end line, (coach completely outside of the boundary) to be recorded in the scorebook (assuming no egregious behavior) followed by a technical foul and loss of the box for any subsequently observed boundary violation. The also wanted any uniform/apparel violations to be dealt with a through a technical foul to the head coach similar to the pre-game dunking rule because they didn't feel the "you cannot play until rectified" is working. They wanted the officials to have no choice or discretion which then puts it on the coaches who will get the point after a technical foul or two. In our state, three techs to a coach results in a suspension.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by walt

As for the last second shot possibilities, I was at an NCAA Women's camp and the discussion there was 4 last second shot opportunities adds excitement to the game, makes the officials stay engaged, promotes game clock and shot clock awareness, etc. To each their own. Being an NCAA women's official, I like it.

Excitement is great, but NF rules right now does not have a shot clock. You have teams actually slow down for the final minute or so for those shots (so you have no action). I am not sure I want a shot clock either as we have a lot of problems with the shot clock with small college. I am not confident that a shot clock is going to make the game better at the high school level with all the potential an real mistakes that are made. Yes I know states use it, but that does not mean everyone is going to apply it properly. Good for those states, but the NF at least should give the option to not use a shot clock if they ever change the rule.

Peace

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Excitement is great, but NF rules right now does not have a shot clock. You have teams actually slow down for the final minute or so for those shots (so you have no action).

From my experience watching CA high school games with the shot clock, it's long enough that it rarely matters. The two best things about it, IMHO, are (1) at the end of quarters not having more than the 35 seconds of dead play that the shot clock allows (though HS teams are not good at things like 2-for-1 clock management) and (2) it, to a degree, minimizes the intentional fouling at the end of close games, as there is a limit on the length of stalling. The latter, to me, is the best reason to keep it. (And yes, especially at understaffed tournaments and some schools, there are consistent problems with the managing of the shot clock.)

Without jump balls or resetting fouls (neither of which I'm in favor of), it's hard to see any reason to keep quarters, as they don't mean anything -- just an artificial break in the game.

I do like 1-and-1. Part of it, I confess, is that's how it was when I played. But a larger part is I like the fact that a team trying to get back in the game gets an advantage from having fouled less. I think double bonus at 10 strikes a nice balance.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

From my experience watching CA high school games with the shot clock, it's long enough that it rarely matters. The two best things about it, IMHO, are (1) at the end of quarters not having more than the 35 seconds of dead play that the shot clock allows (though HS teams are not good at things like 2-for-1 clock management) and (2) it, to a degree, minimizes the intentional fouling at the end of close games, as there is a limit on the length of stalling. The latter, to me, is the best reason to keep it. (And yes, especially at understaffed tournaments and some schools, there are consistent problems with the managing of the shot clock.)

Without jump balls or resetting fouls (neither of which I'm in favor of), it's hard to see any reason to keep quarters, as they don't mean anything -- just an artificial break in the game.

I do like 1-and-1. Part of it, I confess, is that's how it was when I played. But a larger part is I like the fact that a team trying to get back in the game gets an advantage from having fouled less. I think double bonus at 10 strikes a nice balance.

I work many HS games in CA and while the operating of the shot clock isn't perfect, it does make the game better for both of the reasons you list.

I have advocated playing in halves for years, but the trend is obviously going the opposite way now. I don't care for what are two needless stoppages. I also would prefer that we eliminate 30-second time-outs and have four full-length TOs instead.

If the NFHS game ends up sticking with quarters, I'm all for resetting the fouls as I believe that it will result in fewer FT attempts. I also support eliminating the 1&1 as it would get rid of one more way in which the game can get screwed up.

I'm on the opposite side of your comeback stance. I think that the team with the lead near the end of the game shouldn't be put at a disadvantage by the trailing team fouling. I don't like that they can trade 2pts max for an attempt at a 3. Yes, the team with the lead can foul too in order to prevent 3pt attempts, and I hate it when both teams employ that strategy and the game devolves into a FT contest for the final 90 seconds. It is awful and a farce. I would even support a rule change to prevent that in which any foul committed outside of the 3pt line during the final two minutes of the 4th quarter or any extra period results in 3 FTs.

[SC Official]

NFHS just tweeted the ice hockey rules change press release. That must mean basketball is coming soon. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

NFHS just tweeted the ice hockey rules change press release. That must mean basketball is coming soon. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

Hours?? Days?? Weeks??

Peace